My recent 200.00 upgrade.

anamorphic96

anamorphic96

Audioholic General






Just installed these panels from ATS Acoustics. Boy did things improve. All the slap echo I had with the front and back wall is completely gone.

A couple years back I used Auralex foam in my old apartment but these work much better and look nicer. Each panel runs less than 30.00 from ATS and the build quality is very impressive. They also have several other patterns to choose from as well as solid colors.

Hope this helps with people on the fence with purchasing treatments. It can be done on the cheap. The sound differences are substantial.
 
Serj22

Serj22

Full Audioholic
why the bricks? I would be afraid of them tipping sidways and the whole Tv and center go down...eek.:eek:
 
anamorphic96

anamorphic96

Audioholic General
why the bricks? I would be afraid of them tipping sidways and the whole Tv and center go down...eek.:eek:
The bricks help bring the center channel up off the tv stand and isolate it. Similar to what speaker stands do. Or what a pair of MoPads would due below studio monitors. It's a noticeable difference in dialogue clarity. It also brings it more level with the left and right channel to create a more cohesive front image. I will probably get MoPads and angle the center upwards in the future but this was free and works really well.

The bricks go almost all the way back with weight distributed to prevent the tv from tipping over. The TV's stand also prevents tipping. So no worries here.
 
anamorphic96

anamorphic96

Audioholic General
i don't understand the isolation part.
It brings the speaker up off the tv stand similar to using speaker stands. Center channels when sitting to close to flat surefaces can take on a nasal quality which the brick stand helps prevent. Studios do a similar thing when mounting monitors on consoles. Auralex makes something called MoPads which I may switch to because they look nicer. But the bricks where free and do a pretty good job in the meantime.

Does this help.
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
Whats your point.
i am wondering how covering a few sq ft, of dozens of sq ft, is going to kill the problem.

make it better, sure. eliminate it, idk bout that. please, tell me how that works.
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

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It brings the speaker up off the tv stand similar to using speaker stands. Center channels when sitting to close to flat surefaces can take on a nasal quality which the brick stand helps prevent. Studios do a similar thing when mounting monitors on consoles. Auralex makes something called MoPads which I may switch to because they look nicer. But the bricks where free and do a pretty good job in the meantime.

Does this help.
sure. raising up that speaker will help, in 3 ways. 1, the reflections off the stand. 2, it would be aimed better. 3, putting it closer to even with your mains.

but i fail to see how it "isolates" anything.
 
Matt34

Matt34

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i am wondering how covering a few sq ft, of dozens of sq ft, is going to kill the problem.

make it better, sure. eliminate it, idk bout that. please, tell me how that works.
It's going to break up/absorb some of the sound waves. You don't want to cover the entire wall with absorbing materials either as it will make for a dead room.
 
anamorphic96

anamorphic96

Audioholic General
i am wondering how covering a few sq ft, of dozens of sq ft, is going to kill the problem.

make it better, sure. eliminate it, idk bout that. please, tell me how that works.
The wall behind my listening position does not reflect sound back at the wall behind my tv and at the sound coming from the system.

Before the treatments where put up I could clap my hands and hear the sound echoing or slapping back off the walls. This problem has been eliminated. I clap my hands now and there is no slap or echo off the walls. The room is more neutral with no echo creating better clarity from the speakers. Especially in the upper mids and high frequencies.

Does this help.
 
anamorphic96

anamorphic96

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sure. raising up that speaker will help, in 3 ways. 1, the reflections off the stand. 2, it would be aimed better. 3, putting it closer to even with your mains.

but i fail to see how it "isolates" anything.
Just like isolating a sub from the floor, monitor from a console or a floorstanding speaker from the floor. The stands prevent interaction with the floor or surface creating isolation.
 
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just-some-guy

just-some-guy

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The wall behind my listening position does not reflect sound back at the wall behind my tv and at the sound coming from the system.

Before the treatments where put up I could clap my hands and hear the sound echoing or slapping back off the walls. This problem has been eliminated. I clap my hands now and there is no slap or echo off the walls. The room is more neutral with no echo creating better clarity from the speakers. Especially in the upper mids and high frequencies.
well. i guess your room is not nearly as bad as mine. i have about 6-10x that much.

Just like isolating a sub from the floor, monitor from a console or a floorstanding speaker from the floor. The stands prevent interaction with the floor or surface creating isolation.
i don't see anyone putting their subs on bricks.
but in reality, it doesn't make a difference. i doubt you need isolation there anyway. i was just wondering how that worked.

my subs and center are on foam.
 
anamorphic96

anamorphic96

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well. i guess your room is not nearly as bad as mine. i have about 6-10x that much.



i don't see anyone putting their subs on bricks.
but in reality, it doesn't make a difference. i doubt you need isolation there anyway. i was just wondering how that worked.

my subs and center are on foam.
If you check out the ATS site they have a room calculator that helps determine how much you need. 6 panels is what they suggested for my room.

As far as the sub goes its similar to using the Auralex SubDude or spikes. I live in a duplex with wood floors and space underneath that causes the floor and windows to rattle when the sub gets going. The bricks help prevent the floor and windows from rattling. Along with the spiked feet on the sub it helped eliminate most of it. It's a bit crude but works pretty well, and it's free. But a SubDude will be purchased in the near future. I probably could have used foam but didn't have any and the bricks where in the garage.
 

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