My new RBH 8300/PX arrived!!

[dolynick]

Not really. Low frequencies affect hearing differently. But that is really loud.

Low frequencies are just as damaging to hearing as highs and can effect the entire range of hearing when they do. We perceive low frequencies differently (typically less loudly), their effect isn't different. I'd say that makes them more dangerous really as you're less likely to notice "oh, that's too loud" with them than with mids or highs.

At any rate, I was just surprised to read the comment about sustained 105db listening and 120db peaks. I like to feel my music as much as anyone, but I personally don't think I could stand that and would have to leave the room pretty quickly.

 

[Kingnoob]

I'll let him answer but based on his room size, open areas, and listening habits it might not be as adequate as the larger amp. I'm guessing from the MLP it does fine, just not for filling the rest of the space. Peace of mind goes a long way

yeah it’s no surprise avrs can’t beat high wattage amps , I’ve not seen any over 160 wpch. Mines only 135 or so and older. I see people like op bi-amping the expensive models is this one active? I noticed the fancy cables built for it .
I don’t think I noticed any difference on cheap speakers.?? I could try it again.

Low frequencies are just as damaging to hearing as highs and can effect the entire range of hearing when they do. We perceive low frequencies differently (typically less loudly), their effect isn't different. I'd say that makes them more dangerous really as you're less likely to notice "oh, that's too loud" with them than with mids or highs.

At any rate, I was just surprised to read the comment about sustained 105db listening and 120db peaks. I like to feel my music as much as anyone, but I personally don't think I could stand that and would have to leave the room pretty quickly.

what about those people with tons of massive subs ?
Guess so I still have ear pain from movie theaters in 2016-19. Spl got too high I didn’t think of earplugs until it was too late.

 

[dolynick]

what about those people with tons of massive subs ?
Guess so I still have ear pain from movie theaters in 2016-19. Spl got too high I didn’t think of earplugs until it was too late.

As with any sound, it's about SPL and duration. Your hearing can tolerate momentary peaks at higher levels without damage. I would think traditional sub high peak levels are operating under the idea that it's ok because it's not sustained for more than a few seconds. That does make sense. Sustained levels in a lot of music is higher up the frequency band, but not all. It depends on the content. One loud explosion is probably fine. Play some bass heavy music that's pretty consistent at 110db for an hour or something and it's a different story.

The study results I looked at before posting earlier cited 63Hz at 90db for several hours caused significant hearing damage across a wide range of the hearing range. Assuming that information was accurate, loud bass is dangerous for your hearing too (possibly worse), just like prolonged exposure at other frequencies. But really, that just seems like common sense that any thing at extreme levels for too long is going to be bad for your ears.

 

[Alex2507]

But really, that just seems like common sense that any thing at extreme levels for too long is going to be bad for your ears.

Right, that's why you need bigger amps. Duh.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

anything at extreme levels for too long is going to be bad for your ears.

Here’s the question though. If your hearing is already impaired to the point that you have to listen to higher volumes, do you just have to tell yourself to only listen to quiet volume and can no longer “enjoy” livelier volume?

 

[Kingnoob]

As with any sound, it's about SPL and duration. Your hearing can tolerate momentary peaks at higher levels without damage. I would think traditional sub high peak levels are operating under the idea that it's ok because it's not sustained for more than a few seconds. That does make sense. Sustained levels in a lot of music is higher up the frequency band, but not all. It depends on the content. One loud explosion is probably fine. Play some bass heavy music that's pretty consistent at 110db for an hour or something and it's a different story.

The study results I looked at before posting earlier cited 63Hz at 90db for several hours caused significant hearing damage across a wide range of the hearing range. Assuming that information was accurate, loud bass is dangerous for your hearing too (possibly worse), just like prolonged exposure at other frequencies. But really, that just seems like common sense that any thing at extreme levels for too long is going to be bad for your ears.

Yeah the one room that’s my parents tv only has tv speakers I don’t understand why they hurt my ears more then regular ones. I tried to put a Klipsch promedia in there but it broke and they just went back to using nothing. And my other pc sub that worked that has pc speakers apparently gone missing I assume thrown out so the war on audio continues.
I’m lucky all the real speakers I still have.
Why do avrs offer bi amping if it supposedly doesn’t do much ? Seems lots of people do this for 2ch even this post does . Does it help if you got unused channels ??

 

[everettT]

Why do avrs offer bi amping if it supposedly doesn’t do much ? Seems lots of people do this for 2ch even this post does . Does it help if you got unused channels ??

The marketing department...

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

The marketing department...

This…

 

[Kingnoob]

The marketing department...

yeah go figure and sell more cables I tried it once couldn’t tell a difference. Moved the cables to another room but it’s back not in usage . Even bookshelfs I’ve seen
bi amping terminals on the back.