Mute Button (abuse?...)

[Woofer]

I'm not one for commercials on TV, so when they appear, I push my favorite button - MUTE. Easily the most used button on the blaster.

Now that I've picked up a Denon 2808ci and am running all audio through it, I get a nice solid-state 's-n-a-p' each and every time I mash the MUTE (easily 30x a night.)

Should I be concerned about wearing something out... other than the button?

 

[TLS Guy]

I'm not one for commercials on TV, so when they appear, I push my favorite button - MUTE. Easily the most used button on the blaster.

Now that I've picked up a Denon 2808ci and am running all audio through it, I get a nice solid-state 's-n-a-p' each and every time I mash the MUTE (easily 30x a night.)

Should I be concerned about wearing something out... other than the button?

That should not happen. You need to address that with Denon and or your vendor. That is unacceptable.

 

[Woofer]

Looking back, I didn't explain that very well.

The 'snap' is crisp, almost metallic in sound and comes from within the AVR, not through the audio path to the speakers. It sounds very much like a solenoid and is by no means 'loud' but certainly noticeable. I've heard other components (most notably amplifiers) make the same sound at start-up and power-down. I'm almost certain it's normal behavior, I'm just thinking about long-term wear and tear due to my OCD over commercials.

I guess what I'm asking is, is the process of enabling/disabling the MUTE function a physical one or electronic one inside the AVR?

 

[mike c]

your denon should have the following options for "mute"

-20
-40
FULL

i use either -20 or -40 and those attenuate the volume enough to be called "mute" ...

maybe yours is in FULL, so the receiver shuts off the amp section everytime

 

[TLS Guy]

Looking back, I didn't explain that very well.

The 'snap' is crisp, almost metallic in sound and comes from within the AVR, not through the audio path to the speakers. It sounds very much like a solenoid and is by no means 'loud' but certainly noticeable. I've heard other components (most notably amplifiers) make the same sound at start-up and power-down. I'm almost certain it's normal behavior, I'm just thinking about long-term wear and tear due to my OCD over commercials.

I guess what I'm asking is, is the process of enabling/disabling the MUTE function a physical one or electronic one inside the AVR?

Obviously your unit uses a mechanical relay to short the preamp outputs to put it in mute. I would not worry about wearing out the relay. The voltages are so low, I doubt the relay contacts will deteriorate. If they do the relay would be easily replaced.

I thought you were getting the snap from the speakers! That would not have been good.

 

[Woofer]

Cool. Thx guys.

Admittedly, I've got some long hours ahead of me starin' at that manual.

So, back in the main thread I just click on the little Hitch Hiker Hand and each of you gets a Scooby Snack, right?

 

[highfigh]

Go to pg 33 of the manual and read the last item, which is about setting the muting level. You can choose -20dB, -40dB or full mute.

Re: long hours- the index works pretty well, but going through the setup menu repeatedly is a good way to learn it, too.

 

[EJ1]

+1 for muting commercials.

 

[highfigh]

+1 for muting commercials.

+2 for eliminating them.

Didn't the original cable TV providers say commercials would be a thing of the past? Probably the same PR firm that first said computers would make us paperless.

 

[Haoleb]

That should not happen. You need to address that with Denon and or your vendor. That is unacceptable.

Honestly, Sometimes you really jump to conclusions....

What your hearing is the relay inside the reciever clicking on and off. its completely normal.

 

[Seth=L]

Honestly, Sometimes you really jump to conclusions....

What your hearing is the relay inside the reciever clicking on and off. its completely normal.

Honestly, Sometimes you really jump to conclusions....(this is actually the only time that comes to mind)

What you missed is that TLS guy already said this in a later post.

But still...SHAME on TLS guy for assuming it was the speakers, BAD TLS GUY!!!!

 

[Haoleb]

Honestly, Sometimes you really jump to conclusions....(this is actually the only time that comes to mind)

What you missed is that TLS guy already said this in a later post.

But still...SHAME on TLS guy for assuming it was the speakers, BAD TLS GUY!!!!

No, i didnt miss what he said. I'm not a hawk looking for a chance to scold for making a mistake once in a while, But ive seen in happen more than a couple times already and I think if were going to try and help people, instead of jumping to conclusions saying in a without a doubt fashion that its something without even knowing all the facts that it really doesnt help.

It would be like someone asking why their car doesnt steer very good anymore and me jumping in there telling them "Fill your steering fluid before you kill someone because theres no doubt thats why"

am i making any sense?

 

[Woofer]

+2 for eliminating them.

Didn't the original cable TV providers say commercials would be a thing of the past? Probably the same PR firm that first said computers would make us paperless.

Phunny you mention. I was watching when Video Killed the Radio Star and remember the very same promise - subscription fees will negate the need for advertising dollars. Today, not only are you lucky to get 40 minutes of content out of an hour long show, you've got ever expanding bugs and the latest insult, advertising DURING the program. You watch, next will be a streaming PIP ad you can't turn off. That'll be the day I lose it and return my box to the cable co., through the front window.

 

[highfigh]

Phunny you mention. I was watching when Video Killed the Radio Star and remember the very same promise - subscription fees will negate the need for advertising dollars. Today, not only are you lucky to get 40 minutes of content out of an hour long show, you've got ever expanding bugs and the latest insult, advertising DURING the program. You watch, next will be a streaming PIP ad you can't turn off. That'll be the day I lose it and return my box to the cable co., through the front window.

Remember Springsteen's song, '57 Channels and nothing's on'?

 

[Seth=L]

No, i didnt miss what he said. I'm not a hawk looking for a chance to scold for making a mistake once in a while, But ive seen in happen more than a couple times already and I think if were going to try and help people, instead of jumping to conclusions saying in a without a doubt fashion that its something without even knowing all the facts that it really doesnt help.

It would be like someone asking why their car doesnt steer very good anymore and me jumping in there telling them "Fill your steering fluid before you kill someone because theres no doubt thats why"

am i making any sense?

Yes, you are making sense. I am definitely not scolding you, and I felt pretty secure that you had read the entire thread. I am simply having fun at your expense (which I suppose I should spare other peoples' threads from my fun and games).

 

[Woofer]

Remember Springsteen's song, '57 Channels and nothing's on'?

I do. Also partial to Henley's 'Dirty Laundry'.

 

[Lightning Steve]

Woofer, I know the "snap" sound you mean, I had an older Dennon and it made the same noise. I used that amp of about 15 years and that was never a problem.

Yes the on-screen advertising has gotten way out of hand. These pop up ads that take up 1/3 of the screen are just too much. If they now start coming up with PIP ads I am going to blame YOU for giving them the idea, lol.

Then there is sports pre-empting a regular scheduled program, with 136+ sports only channels, why is the program I want to watch over ridden?

 

[Highbar]

My personal favorite is the digital glitch and audio drop outs that are "regular" according to the cable company Why am I paying money to miss 5 minutes every hour? Makes me wonder

 

[fmw]

I remember when cable TV was just being developed and implemented in the 1960's. It was called pay TV. The selling point was that since you are paying for it with a monthly fee, there is no advertising like that which pays the bills on free tv. Obviously, something got lost somewhere along the way.

 

[Woofer]

Yeah... of the Seven Deadly Sins, Avarice seems to be in particular vogue these days. If nothing else, human nature is predictable but I'm still amazed how often it disappoints me.

And then I play music.