Multiroom AV help!!!

TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I know this is a bit of an old thread, but can't chumperdink do the whole multi-zone thing using a Musiccast receiver as long as he combines this with a lot of wireless musiccast speakers (WX-030 or WX-010) in each room? The speakers are a bit pricey though compared to standard wired speakers. With the Yamaha system you can have up to 10 zones I think and I believe it's limited to stereo not multi-channel for the remote zones. I just bought one of their receivers and have 2 zones setup but my second zone is wired as I haven't bought any of the wireless speakers yet. The Musiccast app is really terrific BTW.

I think this is a more modern way than doing the old multi channel amp wired system with remote receivers and in-wall panels in each room.

...Roger
After you buy those wireless speakers you will be crying in your soup!
 
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rsplodge

Audiophyte
Ok TLS, Mister Brevity: are you going to say why? Because the sound is crap?

Anyway, for my purposes I don't really care for super high quality in my remote zones. I was more concerned about the cost of all those musiccast speakers.

I've actually been looking for a wireless receiving unit/amplifier that would work with Musiccast so that I could just receive the Wifi signal and then use wired speakers of my choice within a particular room. I'm surprised Yamaha doesn't make such a thing. I even thought maybe I should buy a WX-010 and tear it apart and hack it so that I can just use the wifi receiver/DACs and couple it to a local amp and speakers (because I have some of those kicking around already).

..Roger
 
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chumperdink

Audiophyte
Hey all some apologies for not updating the original thread.

I have the system rocking now. It's not exactly how I envisioned it, but it works great for me.

So with the yamaha ax860 reciever, I paired a niles SI2100 amplifier to the zone 2 pre out, then daisy chained another Niles SI250 amplifier to the SI2100. then using niles speaker hubs split the 5 pairs of speakers (3 on the 2100, and 2 on the 250). All these pairs go to a volume control.

Then hooked up a chromcast audio dongle to an analog input on the reciever (audio 1),which one fine audioholic recomennded, and bam open for business!!.

Now as TlS warned it's not the blow your hair back in your face sound, but this setup is pretty damn good.

I also have the ability to turn the reciever on/off with my phone, and cast music from pandora, or Google music from my phone or computer. Good enough for me!!

I did look at the musiccast speakers which in theory would work but the price was too much for one. Good idea though.

Thanks to all who helped!!
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Ok TLS, Mister Brevity: are you going to say why? Because the sound is crap?

Anyway, for my purposes I don't really care for super high quality in my remote zones. I was more concerned about the cost of all those musiccast speakers.

I've actually been looking for a wireless receiving unit/amplifier that would work with Musiccast so that I could just receive the Wifi signal and then use wired speakers of my choice within a particular room. I'm surprised Yamaha doesn't make such a thing. I even thought maybe I should buy a WX-010 and tear it apart and hack it so that I can just use the wifi receiver/DACs and couple it to a local amp and speakers (because I have some of those kicking around already).

..Roger
There have been discussions on Musicast previously, including contributions from a professional installer.

The problem is range and the inability to deliver signal though walls and ceilings.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
I know this is a bit of an old thread, but can't chumperdink do the whole multi-zone thing using a Musiccast receiver as long as he combines this with a lot of wireless musiccast speakers (WX-030 or WX-010) in each room? The speakers are a bit pricey though compared to standard wired speakers. With the Yamaha system you can have up to 10 zones I think and I believe it's limited to stereo not multi-channel for the remote zones. I just bought one of their receivers and have 2 zones setup but my second zone is wired as I haven't bought any of the wireless speakers yet. The Musiccast app is really terrific BTW.

I think this is a more modern way than doing the old multi channel amp wired system with remote receivers and in-wall panels in each room.

...Roger
Sonos, and the new clones of Sonos, are certainly a viable option. The problem, and I think it is a real problem, is that you still have speakers to contend with in every room. Do you put your speakers on a shelf? Hang them on a wall? Do you get in-wall or in-ceiling speakers, then run wires to them through the wall?

What if you have range/wi-fi/networking issues?

What if the company EVER goes out of business?

That last one isn't a joke as one of the major 'jukebox' companies of the early 2000's, Escient, recently went bankrupt and shut down the CDDB which their players used to look up CD metadata. Rendering thousands of media players obsolete in one moment. Imagine if Sonos goes out of business, and there are no firmware updates and your collection is limited to what continues to work, if it works? As iOS devices update and Android devices update, and all the music services update, the Sonos would eventually completely die.

Hard wiring a home and using keypads that require no firmware updates ever, and using traditional amplifiers, and preamps, are a long term solution. You can pick from thousands of different sources to put into your system, including the newest Sonos or Musicast systems, or your record player or reel-to-reel deck. This isn't a short term solution, and requires a thought process. But, I recently added a Sonos to an existing system and it took about 2 minutes to do. It was great, incredibly easy.

Going from scratch, I still want surround sound and an A/V receiver, and if the functionality of Sonos isn't built into the receiver I buy, then I have to get additional hardware to make it work, and those speakers all are wired to the A/V receiver, etc.

There's advantages and disadvantages to both options. Wiring and wireless solutions. I'm not against wireless if the goal is just music, in just a few locations, and people have a good way to deal with the in-room wiring and speakers. Throw a Play-1 into a kid's room and let them enjoy all it has to offer! Great! But, wiring in a dozen Connect-Amp units ($500 each) and then putting speakers in the walls, and running the wiring... Well, maybe a home-run system with centralized control may have been the better option at that point.
 
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