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[Rich0372]

Every one that is on the market has a wattage rating. And, certainly magazines have it rated too.
Besides, what material will demand anywhere near full power on all channels at the exact same instant? I am not aware of any. So, if that power need is staggered inb time and channels, you can expect to get maximum power per channel.[/QUOTE]

If you like 5/7 channel stereo thats pretty demanding especially with big floorstanding speakers

If someone likes to crank their music it's worth getting at least a 2 channel amp for the mains 200x2 or more sound quaility will be much improved but, I agree the sub should come first Rich

 

[BJP]

BJP, take a look of the SVS, they are powerful and musical.

PENG, I am interested in the SVS PB12 ISD. But living in Canada has its drawbacks when ordering from the U.S. I'd pay taxes and a handling fee. If I'm not pleased with it(long shot)I'd have to pay for the shipping($$$)and I would not get back the border fees . Overall the Axiom is the most expensive followed by SVS then HSU. Searching for a sub is quite difficult .

 

[newfmp3]

PENG, I am interested in the SVS PB12 ISD. But living in Canada has its drawbacks when ordering from the U.S. I'd pay taxes and a handling fee. If I'm not pleased with it(long shot)I'd have to pay for the shipping($$$)and I would not get back the border fees . Overall the Axiom is the most expensive followed by SVS then HSU. Searching for a sub is quite difficult .

just get a hsu. there are Canadian dealers. I got mine with free shipping too. At 82lbs before packaging....free shipping is a good thing.

 

[BJP]

just get a hsu. there are Canadian dealers. I got mine with free shipping too. At 82lbs before packaging....free shipping is a good thing.

newfmp3, how do you find the VTF3 Mk2 with movies? I heard that the HSU is musical, while the SVS is great with HT. I know we are getting a bit off topic, but since I got you here...

 

[PENG]

PENG, I am interested in the SVS PB12 ISD. But living in Canada has its drawbacks when ordering from the U.S. I'd pay taxes and a handling fee. If I'm not pleased with it(long shot)I'd have to pay for the shipping($$$)and I would not get back the border fees . Overall the Axiom is the most expensive followed by SVS then HSU. Searching for a sub is quite difficult .

Even with shipping cost and taxes, you still get good value for the money, especially now, when the C$ is higher. Those SVS are unbelievable, and customer service is first class. From what I have read so far, the HSU's are just as good.

 

[mtrycrafts]

PENG, I am interested in the SVS PB12 ISD. But living in Canada has its drawbacks when ordering from the U.S. I'd pay taxes and a handling fee. If I'm not pleased with it(long shot)I'd have to pay for the shipping($$$)and I would not get back the border fees . Overall the Axiom is the most expensive followed by SVS then HSU. Searching for a sub is quite difficult .

It might pay you to take a vacation to SVS and pick one up
Perhaps the border guards will not care

 

[PENG]

In theory, you have to pay for shipping either way, buying from a store; the shipping cost is built in whereas buying on line you pay for it directly. I found buying from SVS on line was easy. If I remember correctly, it took only a few days, hassle free.

 

[BJP]

It might pay you to take a vacation to SVS and pick one up
Perhaps the border guards will not care

I'd get nailed for sure! They love sucking money from us
My best bet would be to boat it across Lake Erie .

 

[mtrycrafts]

I'd get nailed for sure! They love sucking money from us
My best bet would be to boat it across Lake Erie .

Wouldn't it be duty free after a 30 day stay? You need a longer vacation

 

[newfmp3]

newfmp3, how do you find the VTF3 Mk2 with movies? I heard that the HSU is musical, while the SVS is great with HT. I know we are getting a bit off topic, but since I got you here...

No problem

I've heard the stf is more musical, but not the vtf....anyways, I'm pretty picky with bass, yes it is awesome for music, but I can't believe what I am hearing for movies. The sub hits hard, very hard, and it's not slow like most 12's I've heard. I usually play return of the king when someone wants to hear it for movies. You know that battle scene, where the large elephant type creatures come out. Well, lets just say that everyone is impressed with this thing. I got a laugh at the womans father when he was over, he kept looking at his shirt so I had to ask wtf was he doing? He said, "My shirt, it's actually moving evertime those elephants walk" hee hee, kind of gives me that proud ownership feeling

The vtf3 is the one purchase besides my axioms that I have absolutely no regrets about. Even if I could afford more, I don't know why I would need more then the vtf3. It's the one piece of my equipment I think most people notice the most. It's big yes, but it's one of the best subs I've heard bar none. I have never heard it bottom out, and I can't imagine the volumes it would take to do it.

I have not heard svs. wanted to try one, but with the duties/shipping it wasn't worth it. I know HSU owners that left SVS because of quality issues, but again, you'll find that with every brand so it might not mean anything.

If you get this thing, and you have hardwood, put something under it. It'll kill your floors at 82 lbs and carpet spikes. If you have thick carpet as I do, raise the carpet spikes, give the woofer enough room to breathe. They can be adjusted for thick carpets.

 

[Duffinator]

No problem

I've heard the stf is more musical, but not the vtf....anyways, I'm pretty picky with bass, yes it is awesome for music, but I can't believe what I am hearing for movies. The sub hits hard, very hard, and it's not slow like most 12's I've heard. I usually play return of the king when someone wants to hear it for movies. You know that battle scene, where the large elephant type creatures come out. Well, lets just say that everyone is impressed with this thing. I got a laugh at the womans father when he was over, he kept looking at his shirt so I had to ask wtf was he doing? He said, "My shirt, it's actually moving evertime those elephants walk" hee hee, kind of gives me that proud ownership feeling

Yeah that scene is unbelieveable with a good sub. Everyone always rants about the Helms Deep scene in TT but I think that scene is even better. That could be the best test of a sub for movies I've ever heard.

BJP, I don't think you can go wrong with either SVS or HSU. If the HSU is less expensive or easier to purchase go for it. I picked SVS over HSU but your system will rock with either for movies. What are you waiting for?

 

[BJP]

BJP, I don't think you can go wrong with either SVS or HSU. If the HSU is less expensive or easier to purchase go for it. I picked SVS over HSU but your system will rock with either for movies. What are you waiting for?

There is a battle going on with my brain and my gut. My gut is to go with Axiom EP500, because of the power/depth and its the easiest to order. My brain wants the SVS, because of the reviews, depth and down firing is less directional than front firing and they say its the best for HT. I got the shipping quote from SVS and with the taxes and border crap it looks like SVS would be the cheapest. As for the HSU, I'm not really thinking about that one for some reason. I'll get this figured out soon

 

[BJP]

Wouldn't it be duty free after a 30 day stay? You need a longer vacation

Perhaps I should just move to the States. I wouldn't have to pay $3300 for a HK AVR 7300 . I could drive up to Canada in July with skies on the roof of my car . Sorry to say that, but it does happen .

 

[mtrycrafts]

Perhaps I should just move to the States. I wouldn't have to pay $3300 for a HK AVR 7300 . I could drive up to Canada in July with skies on the roof of my car . Sorry to say that, but it does happen .

Hey, why didn't I think of suggesting to move altogether

I like to ski too. You have snow there in July? Where? I don't want glacier skiing though

I just noticed you are in London? I have a sister in St. Georges. Going there in Oct.

 

[BJP]

Hey, why didn't I think of suggesting to move altogether

Your a good guy mtrycrafts. I added you on my buddy list .

I like to ski too. You have snow there in July? Where? I don't want glacier skiing though

We got snow all over Canada. Right when you cross the border

 

[PENG]

Perhaps I should just move to the States. I wouldn't have to pay $3300 for a HK AVR 7300 . I could drive up to Canada in July with skies on the roof of my car . Sorry to say that, but it does happen .

If I were in the U.S., I would have got the AVR7200 last year instead of the AVR3805 and saved a few bucks at the same. That said, I thought I paid a fair price for my SVS PCU. They don't charge you more just because you are from Canada. You pay tax and freight like everyone else do, and that's fair.

By the way, I know the PB models look nice, but the cylinders are stronger but lighter, hence lower shipping cost. If you don't mind their look, they are a good alternative to the much heavier blocks.