Haoleb

Haoleb

Audioholic Field Marshall
make sure if you get the 3500mk2 to keep it on all the time so the volt meter is always on, And turn the voltmeter all the way up. This way it will probably break within your warranty period (the volt meter lighting) and you can send it back for a brand new 3600mk2.

Worked for me :D
 
Jack Hammer

Jack Hammer

Audioholic Field Marshall
Haoleb said:
make sure if you get the 3500mk2 to keep it on all the time so the volt meter is always on, And turn the voltmeter all the way up. This way it will probably break within your warranty period (the volt meter lighting) and you can send it back for a brand new 3600mk2.

Worked for me :D
How do you like the 3600 vs 3500? The main difference seems to be an analog vs digital meter.

Jack
 
Haoleb

Haoleb

Audioholic Field Marshall
Jack Hammer said:
How do you like the 3600 vs 3500? The main difference seems to be an analog vs digital meter.

Jack

Physically thats the main difference. Also The LED's on the front arent as bright and it can also display amerage. It seems like it has better power filtration from comparing the insides of both the units.

However I have noticed a slight noise from the 3600 that i didnt get with the 3500. Doesnt really bother me but if your right next to it you can hear a slight whine. Its also got a substantially higher joule rating than the 3500mk2.
 
T

tubesaregood

Audioholic
Sounds Good said:
are the monster power conditioners worth it? who else makes PCs?

i was talking to the sales persone at BB and he made it sound like the diferance between the HTS 3600 and HTS 1600 is additonal outlets... well the 1600 has more than enough for me, i am really only looking for something for my reciever and amp once i get one, i plan on running a 4 ohm load and i want a clean pure 120v source




just seeing what people think... thanks guys
No, they aren't worth it, unless you're only using it as a convenient and expensive place to plug in all your stuff, and you like seeing the numbers between 115 and 120 displayed on an LED display. I would recommend a $5 surge strip from Staples.

Discuss.
 
Jack Hammer

Jack Hammer

Audioholic Field Marshall
tubesaregood said:
... I would recommend a $5 surge strip from Staples.
I wouldn't, at least not for protecting my equipment.

Jack
 
T

tubesaregood

Audioholic
As long as the circuit breaker works properly, you're good.
 
N

Nick250

Audioholic Samurai
tubesaregood said:
No, they aren't worth it, unless you're only using it as a convenient and expensive place to plug in all your stuff, and you like seeing the numbers between 115 and 120 displayed on an LED display. I would recommend a $5 surge strip from Staples.

Discuss.
I would be more likely to get a $75 Belkin power strip. That's where my personal comfort zone starts.

Nick
 
N

nycval

Audiophyte
Forget the Monster Box

You are way better off if you dump the monster.

Go for the Richard Gray Power Company
They do not limit the power you will need when the demand calls for it. RGPC
will
I say try the 400s or the 600s
cost $ 1200.00 best money will will spend
You will sound from movies you have NEVER heard before.
The picture is so much cleaner and clearer

http://www.richardgrayspowercompany.com/
 
M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Unless you actually have a real power problem in your house spending $1200 for a power conditioner, whether Richard Gray, Monster, Panamax, or whatever, will do nothing but reduce your net worth.
 
N

nycval

Audiophyte
soory your not correct

sorry to say this, but you are WRONG
Go find a dealer and see and hear for yourself

I have used all the others and NONE have come close to the RGPC
 
M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
So you have seen and heard all other power conditioners and RGPC trumps all others? That's great, you are helping to keep them in business selling products to solve problems that don't exist for the majority of people.

If your house has major power problems, a call to the power company and a small service charge is far cheaper than spending $1200 for a power conditioner. Treat the problem, not the symptom.
 
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nycval

Audiophyte
sorry your still WRONG

sorry to say but it sounds like you really don't know what you are talking about
ALL HOUSES HAVE A POWER issue.

You do not have a cons. 120v going to the house .

If you know anything about what the RGPC does then you can speak

It places the power you need in the house and gives it to your systems when it calls for the power it needs now and then.
It does not limit the power to 120v it stores and give more when needed
 
M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Sorry, it is you that doesn't know what he is talking about. A power conditioner does not 'store' the power and give it to you when it is needed.

If you feel safe and justified in spending a lot of money for a power conditioner, good for you. It is not my goal to save people from themsevles.
 
N

nycval

Audiophyte
read about it

http://www.richardgrayspowercompany.com/
Like both of its counterparts (400 Pro and 1200 Custom) the RGPC 600S' patented parallel, non-current-limiting technology in effect moves the power from the utility company transformer on the street and places it next to your equipment, eliminating power drains that detract from a systems ability to accurately reproduce audio and video to its fullest performance potential.

RGPC 1200 Custom
Housed in a drop dead gorgeous art-deco chassis, the 1200 Custom is rack mountable right out of the box. It is now a full three rack heights and ships complete with rack ears. The 1200 Custom provides twice the power-on-demand than the RGPC 400 Pro or 600s and sports 12 Hubbell outlets to accommodate a serious amount of gear. The 1200 Custom also enjoys the state of the art, dual stage surge suppression system and removes over 40dB of noise, while providing of 12,000 Watts of high-current-on-demand to supply more power when demand outstrips supply of stiff AC power. It comes equipped with a heavy, 12 gauge, 6ft power cord and has twin 20 Amp fast blow fuses for added protection. Available in anodized aluminum (Silver) or black face plates.

Description
The power of two RGPC 400 Pros wired in parallel with 12 Hubbell outlets.

Power Requirements
100-240 VAC 50/60 HZ
Detachable Power Cord, 12 AWG
20 Amp IEC Connector/15 Amp Plug

Dimensions
17" x 5.25" x 11" (WxHxD)

Weight
55 Lbs

RGPC 400 Pro 600S, and RGPC 1200 Custom units may be star-clustered for additional incremental improvements.

Design and specifications subject to change without notice.





RGPC Pole Pig
Featuring six Hubbell outlets, the Pole Pig is perfect for isolating the front-end components (preamp, DVD player, music server, etc.) of a home theater system, or can power a complete audiophile-grade audio system. The Pole Pig can be coupled with existing RGPC parallel inductor models resulting in the RGPC IsoGray System. The Pole Pig within the IsoGray System completely isolates the front-end components while the patented parallel technology of the 400 Pro, 600S or 1200 Custom provides the rest of the system with instantaneous, high current on demand with no limitations and eliminates inter-component crosstalk.

The Pole Pig also offers surge suppression by way of an onboard MOV (metal oxide varistor). Combining the Pole Pig with other RGPC products mounts an even stronger, triple-stage surge defense for complete system protection.
 
M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Do you understand what any of that means or if any of it is applicable to the typical power situation in an average home?

Monster has great marketing copy too and most of their claims have been debunked over and over. To each his own. If it works for you, great.
 
N

Nick250

Audioholic Samurai
Cutting and pasting marketing literature usually does not convince me of the value of a given product. One of those doohickeys is not on my list of things that improve sound quality, but as MDS suggests, if it makes you a happy camper and you can afford easily afford it, then what the heck, go for it.

Nick
 
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Briant73

Audioholic Intern
I don't want to start a war in this forum but this is a place where we come to see what's real and what's just marketing or outlandish claims. I have some thoughts to add to this.

I just read someone a few message ago say that every house has a power problem, How can you be certain? This is not a statement I would dare make since in no way can you be sure how every house is supplied power or what setup they have. I know nobody from RGPC or any other power protection company has come to my house to test my power.

I do not doubt that RGPC products protect your equipment and they might even have a power reserve setup for when the power briefly dips but I have not read anything that say's to me they are power generators. I am not an electrical engineer but in my mind if the power dips for an extended period of time, how does this product somehow generate extra power without either a battery backup or some kind of generator? I have seen devices that store power with large capacitors and that can be used as a power reserve for a short period of time but they do not create power. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this because I could be wrong or missing something.

Hope to hear back how the RGPC works and what it does to maintain power when the power is low.
 
S

Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
if it means anything RGPC products look very nice, and are cool looking and seem to be very functional... look in to a 240 substation later down the road.. will more than likely be one of THE last thngs i buy....
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
sorry to say this, but you are WRONG
Go find a dealer and see and hear for yourself

I have used all the others and NONE have come close to the RGPC
And, you compared all the others to this wonder how, exactly?
Did you measure anything? Did you conduct DBT testing by chance? Or, just convinced yourself of this wonder of wonders?
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
sorry to say but it sounds like you really don't know what you are talking about
ALL HOUSES HAVE A POWER issue.

You do not have a cons. 120v going to the house .

If you know anything about what the RGPC does then you can speak

It places the power you need in the house and gives it to your systems when it calls for the power it needs now and then.
It does not limit the power to 120v it stores and give more when needed
You don't need a constant 120V, period, end of story. Anything else is just marketing voodoo. Thanks.
 

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