Monster Power

[Sounds Good]

are the monster power conditioners worth it? who else makes PCs?

i was talking to the sales persone at BB and he made it sound like the diferance between the HTS 3600 and HTS 1600 is additonal outlets... well the 1600 has more than enough for me, i am really only looking for something for my reciever and amp once i get one, i plan on running a 4 ohm load and i want a clean pure 120v source

just seeing what people think... thanks guys

 

[dave1490]

are the monster power conditioners worth it? who else makes PCs?

i was talking to the sales persone at BB and he made it sound like the diferance between the HTS 3600 and HTS 1600 is additonal outlets... well the 1600 has more than enough for me, i am really only looking for something for my reciever and amp once i get one, i plan on running a 4 ohm load and i want a clean pure 120v source

just seeing what people think... thanks guys

power gets cleaner as the stages go up.ohm load dont matter.

 

[Sounds Good]

i know load doesnt mater, but i was thinking for less resistance, the more juice the amp/reciver will be sucking, it would probably be more efficiant if the power its getting is clean and a true 120v

 

[Haoleb]

The models your looking at do not regulate the power. Meaning they do not supply a constant 120v no matter what your line is providing. They will simply filter the power for you, reducing line noise. If you want something that provides a true 120v clean sine wave you will need to spend considerably more. I personally like the monster conditioners, They are overpriced if you pay MSRP on them but they can usually be had for much cheaper online. From my first hand experience their warranty service is also quite good. Dont go out and spend the 500 or whatever it is for the 3600, or even the 150 or whatever it is for the 1600. You can get a 3500 (discontinued model) for rather cheap still. There are also plenty or other companies with similar products.

 

[Sounds Good]

ahh ok... what are the regulators called.....

 

[MDS]

ahh ok... what are the regulators called.....

To get TRUE regulation you need something that actually regenerates the AC waveform and that costs a fortune and won't make one bit of difference to your system unless your power is extremely poor.

Devices that claim Automatic Voltage Regulation do not constantly adjust the voltage to be a constant 120V - they boost or cut the voltage to 120V only when it falls below or rises above a certain threshold.

The 'filtering' aspect of a power conditioner will be helpful if there is a lot of noise on the line but the voltage regulation is not really useful or necessary. The power supply in your receiver/amp is going to convert the AC to DC anyway and can usually deal with less than perfect AC.

 

[dave1490]

i know load doesnt mater, but i was thinking for less resistance, the more juice the amp/reciver will be sucking, it would probably be more efficiant if the power its getting is clean and a true 120v

clean first, voltage later.independant circut last.i got a 5100 and it,ll lose 10 volts with bass.regulator is the moster avs2000.68ib,s

 

[mtrycrafts]

are the monster power conditioners worth it? who else makes PCs?
i was talking to the sales persone at BB and he made it sound like the diferance between the HTS 3600 and HTS 1600 is additonal outlets... well the 1600 has more than enough for me, i am really only looking for something for my reciever and amp once i get one, i plan on running a 4 ohm load and i want a clean pure 120v source
just seeing what people think... thanks guys

What are your real needs? What are your real issues that need correcting? Maybe you don't have any and perhaps a surge suppressor will work?
Don't forget, components do have filter in them.

 

[Nick250]

If you are looking for improved sound quality or picture quality with a power conditioner, you will be disappointed if you are honest with yourself.

Nick

 

[highfihoney]

As was pointed out by peng to achieve what you are asking the device to do is not possible,your thinking of a regenerator & again as allready said be prepared to bend over because its gonna hurt bad in the wallet.

I ask you this,what problem do you have that you think you are going to correct with the monster unit,ive tried monster,ps audio & richard grey units all with zero results,the best thing i ever did power wise was to install dedicated 20 amp lines for my system,no tricks or gimmicks just alot of power & i knew right away it bettered the performance.

If your dead set on trying this route go ahead & try it out & if you dont get an improvement take it back & your out nothing that way atleast you'll gain experience with power conditioning.

 

[Jack Hammer]

I recently bought the Monster 3500mkii and am happy with it (refurbed $120). That said, Mtrycrafts is right, I didn't notice any difference other than I have more outlets and it looks really, really cool. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say my power is somewhat 'cleaner' now, but again, I really can't tell. It did give me piece of mind.

Jack

 

[Sounds Good]

i am not trying to correct anything... more so.. prevent and future problems... iv and when i run a 4 ohm load i dont want to over heat anything, and id like better power protection, i live in a apartment and its hard to say what kind of spikes i get... i know sometime when i turn my reciever on my lights dim for a plit second.. and i just donw want to under power my next (maybe power hungry) amp/reciever....

so it sounds as if i should take my 200-500 dollars and spend it else were

 

[Nick250]

I recently bought the Monster 3500mkii and am happy with it (refurbed $120). That said, Mtrycrafts is right, I didn't notice any difference other than I have more outlets and it looks really, really cool. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say my power is somewhat 'cleaner' now, but again, I really can't tell. It did give me piece of mind.
Jack

Well said Jack. Don't tell anyone, but I have a Belkin Pure AV something or other that I got for more than half off at BB due to a pricing goof (list price $325, paid $150). I feel exactly the same as you. It looks great in my rack, has cool blue and green lights, organizes my cables and does surge duties and has huge cool factor. There is no change in audio or video, but I did not expect there to be any.

Nick

 

[Alex2507]

Here is a sparkling review from AH.

http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/monster_HTS-3500a.php

I bought a used HTS 3500 MKII off an eBay store that gives you a 1 year warranty. My HD channels look better according to myself, my S/O and a couple of friends. Are we all wrong and is the review lies?

 

[Jack Hammer]

Here is a sparkling review from AH...

...I bought a used HTS 3500 MKII...

...Are we all wrong and is the review lies?

Not necessarily, just because I can't tell any real difference doesn't mean there isn't or couldn't be one. Maybe I'm getting "cleaner" power than you. Maybe the power in your place needs to be filtered. Maybe there is a difference and maybe it is imagined. I really can't say. All I can tell you is that in my particular case it didn't seem to make any noticeable difference that I could see. The reviewer in that article, who is respected here, said that in his case it made somewhat of a difference. At the price I found my unit at, $120 w/ 1yr warranty, it fills my needs, looks cool, is within my budget, and leaves me happy regardless of whether or not my stuff needed filtering.

Jack

 

[Jack Hammer]

... i know sometime when i turn my reciever on my lights dim for a plit second.. and i just donw want to under power my next (maybe power hungry) amp/reciever....

The power centers mentioned do not regulate voltage. It has a meter that will tell how much voltage is currently in the line, but it will not regulate it to a constant 120v.

Sometimes when I turned my reciever on the lights would dim also, the Monster 3500mkii stopped this from happening. It avoids this by slowly powers up stuff instead of just instantly powering them up. I'm only seeing ~2volt drop when I turn stuff on and the voltage comes right back up after that initial dip.

Jack

 

[Alex2507]

Not necessarily, just because I can't tell any real difference doesn't mean there isn't or couldn't be one. Maybe I'm getting "cleaner" power than you. Maybe the power in your place needs to be filtered. Maybe there is a difference and maybe it is imagined. I really can't say. All I can tell you is that in my particular case it didn't seem to make any noticeable difference that I could see. The reviewer in that article, who is respected here, said that in his case it made somewhat of a difference. At the price I found my unit at, $120 w/ 1yr warranty, it fills my needs, looks cool, is within my budget, and leaves me happy regardless of whether or not my stuff needed filtering.

Jack

"The HTS 3500 did particularly excellent in resolving problems with my cable reception. " , is what the reviewer in the article said in one instance. I mean to me the article was riddled with praise. It was said earlier in the thread that you won't see a difference if you're at all honest with yourself. C'mon.

 

[Jack Hammer]

"The HTS 3500 did particularly excellent in resolving problems with my cable reception. " , is what the reviewer in the article said in one instance. I mean to me the article was riddled with praise. It was said earlier in the thread that you won't see a difference if you're at all honest with yourself. C'mon.

Like most things in life, there are plenty of opinions out there about this subject. I believe what that poster was saying was if you are expecting a dramatic difference in sound and picture quality, most likely you'll be disappointed.

"The HTS 3500 did particularly excellent in resolving problems with my cable reception. " Again, the reviewer's (sorry, I forget who it was and am too lazy to jump over and look ) statement are well respected. His personal experience was different from mine and some others. I did not see any difference. Maybe it's there and I'm not looking in the right place, maybe my setup didn't need it. All I can say is that to my untrained eyes, I don't see a difference. You may see a difference, however most people have reported little if any. No one is trying to tell you it doesn't work, we are just trying to make you aware that if your are looking for a improvement in the percieved SQ/PQ you may not find it to be overwhelming. It's still a nice surge protector, that is why I bought one and am happy with it. And for $120 I would definately recommend it and buy another if I need one.

YMMV

Jack

 

[Alex2507]

I'd love to know where you got yours. I want to get 6 of them and plug 'em into each other to more effectively communicate with the mother ship. I ended up paying $165 for mine.

In my bedroom I have a 20" Olevia EDTV LCD that has a regular cable signal going in. Channel 10 has a lousy picture and channel 4 has lousy audio. Using the tuner in a VCR makes both problems less noticable. The 3500 did little if anything to make things better. It was only hooked up for a month or so while I got around to getting the living room hooked up.

In the living room I have a 32" HDTV LCD that has HD-DVR converter. The picture was okay, just not as good as in the apartment where it came from. The 3500 did make things noticably better. I'm hesitant to describe the improvement because I simply lack the vocabulary not because I have a problem seeing.

So the same 3500 in the same condo had different results with different TV's.
Clearly I'm not saying that every situation will be improved. If anything my point would be that even if you do have a problem this unit might or might not improve it. But it might. LOL

 

[Jack Hammer]

I'd love to know where you got yours. I want to get 6 of them and plug 'em into each other to more effectively communicate with the mother ship. I ended up paying $165 for mine.
...

I got mine here, but the price seems to have gone up and they are out of stock. Reputable place, great deals. They are an authorized Monster, Marantz, and others refurbed dealer.

Jack