Milano Cortina Downhill, Will Lindsey do it?

TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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No she didn't but a Breeze blew in and took it for the US!
So she crashes out, after trying to ski with a complete ACL rupture, which means she had a totally unstable knee. What she did was totally reckless.
I am sure that their are surgeons now, and will be down the line, trying to figure out how to fix an impossibly difficult situation. I bet if she is crippled after this she will blame the surgeons. I have great difficulty having sympathy for a situation like this.
 
haraldo

haraldo

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@TLS Guy Did you really watch what happened? Disagree with you 100%
What happened had nothing to do about the knee !!!!!!!

Just extremely unlucky, hooking the right shoulder onto a gate and forcing a rotation that was unrecoverable, this could have happened to anyone. I think Vonn should get some great credit for this!

Italian Sofia Goggia won a silver medal in the 2022 olympics downhill with a torn ACL, exactly same injury as Vonn had here. I reckon: If you don´t like to take risk, I guess you have nothing to do here in these competitions ;)

It was very very rough to see o_O:(:eek:
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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@TLS Guy Did you really watch what happened? Disagree with you 100%
What happened had nothing to do about the knee !!!!!!!

Just extremely unlucky, hooking the right shoulder onto a gate and forcing a rotation that was unrecoverable, this could have happened to anyone. I think Vonn should get some great credit for this!

Italian Sofia Goggia won a silver medal in the 2022 olympics downhill with a torn ACL, exactly same injury as Vonn had here. I reckon: If you don´t like to take risk, I guess you have nothing to do here in these competitions ;)

It was very very rough to see o_O:(:eek:
I doubt any of her physicians said it was a good idea to ski, with a ruptured ACL. I would bet this has compounded her problem now.
 
haraldo

haraldo

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I doubt any of her physicians said it was a good idea to ski, with a ruptured ACL. I would bet this has compounded her problem now.
That is another story ... but others have done that before her ....
She already has one titanium knee!

The whole US alpine Olympic team supporting Vonn ....
 
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Dude#1279435

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I hope it isn't worse because I believe I heard she went head first once she landed. Hopefully I'm wrong.
 
haraldo

haraldo

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Just heard in the knews tha Vonn has been going through an operation for a broken leg :(
But in a good condition!

What looked really bad to me had nothing to do with the knee IMHO, but that the skis were not releasing....

Vonn has surgery on broken leg
 
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adk highlander

adk highlander

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I doubt any of her physicians said it was a good idea to ski, with a ruptured ACL. I would bet this has compounded her problem now.
I have had friends ski for years with no ACL at a near professional level. You are out of your league of knowledge of what is possible here.
 
haraldo

haraldo

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I hope it isn't worse because I believe I heard she went head first once she landed. Hopefully I'm wrong.
From what I hear she is doing ok, but that stumbling around without the skis releasing ..... looked horrendous o_O
Bindings set extremely tight :eek:
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Just heard in the knews tha Vonn has been going through an operation for a broken leg :(
But in a good condition!

What looked really bad to me had nothing to do with the knee IMHO, but that the skis were not releasing....

Vonn has surgery on broken leg
Well you are wrong. Lindsey Vonn had a hemi titanium knee replacement on her right knee. This matters as the joints have proprio receptors, and the most important are in the joint. So her brain would not be receiving all data required for proper balance in a situation like fast downhill skiing in particular. She has a fresh total unrepaired ACL rupture in her left knee. So that knee by definition is unstable. That means her brain is not receiving all the information required for corrective action. This was a predictable and preventable disaster, which will have negative effects on the rest of her life.
 
haraldo

haraldo

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What is wrong in that post?
Do you know more about alpine skiing than Lindsey Vonn and Aksel Lund Svindal and the US olympic team?

Again ... the crash had nothing to do about the knees..... it has nothing to do about balance.... she had a too tight line and her right shoulder hit the flag HARD-HARD, pushing her into an unrecoverable rotation....

Vonn has 5 podiums, including 2 downhill wins this season
One of her main advisors is Aksel Lund Svindal, one of the most highly regarded alpine skiers ever, do you call these people reckless idiots?

How about Lewis Hamilton driving F1 qualifying with a 103 degree (39.5 centigrade) fever? is he then a reckless idiot?

I think, rather than calling people idiots, we should applaud people who try to push the limits
 
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Dude#1279435

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I think TLS is on to something there. It isn't anything new for a skier to hit a flag and be fine, but Vonn is 41 and injured. Plus the jump was immediately after the flag and looks like she went off to the right. However, I'll take the broken leg cause I thought that might be a potential spine issue.
 
haraldo

haraldo

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Calling Lindsey Vonn “reckless” misses the point—what she did was elite, calculated risk, not chaos. Downhill skiing at that level is about precision under danger, not thrill-seeking.

Some other activities that are pretty rough, I would reckon reckless according to some other members here
Should we say ... safer to be seated in the sofa because that is the safe thing to do ;)

1. Alex Honnold – Free solo El Capitan
A 3,000-foot vertical wall climbed without ropes, partner, or protection. Every move must be memorized and executed perfectly under physical fatigue and psychological pressure. One slip, cramp, or misjudgment equals certain death. Unlike racing, there’s no recovery from a mistake.

2. Alex Honnold – Free solo Taipei 101
A 1,667‑foot skyscraper scaled without ropes, gear, or protection—just fingertips on steel seams and glass edges never meant to be climbed. The building’s smooth, wind‑buffeted façade demands total precision; every micro‑placement must be perfect. One slip means a fall down the sheer face of one of the world’s tallest towers. There are no rests, no cracks, no second chances—just pure exposure above the streets of Taipei.

3. Cecilie Skog – Solo ski journey across Antarctica
A multi‑week crossing of the coldest, windiest continent on Earth, undertaken alone on skis while hauling all equipment in a heavy pulk. Temperatures crash below –40°C, katabatic winds erase the horizon, and each day demands relentless forward progress across featureless ice. Navigation must be flawless; crevasses and whiteouts punish any misjudgment. There are no support teams, no shelters, no easy outs—just pure endurance and mental resilience as Skog pushes across the Antarctic plateau toward her goal.

4. Alain Robert – Free solo skyscrapers (Taipei 101, others)
Climbing smooth glass-and-steel towers using only fingers and shoes, often in wind and heat. Urban surfaces offer unpredictable friction, and security forces add time pressure. There’s no rock texture to “read”—just trust in body control and skin.

5. Wingsuit proximity flying
Athletes fly human-shaped wingsuits inches from cliffs at speeds over 150 mph. Turbulence, misjudged terrain, or a delayed pull leaves no correction time. The sport’s best pilots have died despite elite skill, showing how thin the margin truly is.

6. High-altitude mountaineering without supplemental oxygen
Above 8,000 meters, the body literally cannot recover. Climbers hallucinate, lose coordination, and suffer organ failure while still needing precise movement. Death often comes from exhaustion rather than dramatic accidents.

7. K2 winter ascent
K2 is steeper and more technical than Everest, and winter adds hurricane-force winds and lethal cold. Rescue is almost impossible. Even elite climbers have described it as “sustained suffering with no margin.”

8. Big-wave surfing (Nazaré, Jaws)
Waves can exceed 80 feet and move faster than cars. Surfers risk being driven deep underwater, held down through multiple waves, and slammed into reefs. Even with jet ski support, survival isn’t guaranteed.

9. Free solo ice climbing
Ice is alive—it melts, cracks, and shifts. Tools can shear off without warning. Unlike rock, yesterday’s safe route might be deadly today. Cold numbs hands, reducing grip and reaction time.

10. BASE jumping
Jumpers leap from fixed objects at low altitude, leaving seconds to deploy a parachute. Wind shear, canopy malfunction, or object strike is often fatal. Fatality rates dwarf those of skydiving.

11. MotoGP racing

Riders hit over 220 mph while leaned inches from the ground, surrounded by competitors. Crashes often involve tumbling bodies and bikes at extreme speed. Protective gear helps, but physics still wins frequently.

12. Isle of Man TT
Raced on public roads lined with stone walls, poles, and buildings. Riders memorize hundreds of turns at full speed. Deaths are expected, not rare, and even champions acknowledge the near certainty of serious crashes.

13. Speed flying
Using a tiny parachute to descend mountains at high speed, close to terrain. Less lift means faster reactions are required, and errors can’t be corrected. Even minor miscalculations are fatal.

14. Solo ocean rowing
Athletes spend months alone at sea, rowing through storms, sleep deprivation, and mental isolation. Capsizing, equipment failure, or illness can end the attempt with no rescue nearby.

15. Cave diving
Divers navigate flooded caves with tight passages, zero natural light, and complex tunnel systems. There is no direct ascent to the surface. Disorientation or equipment failure often means drowning.

16. High-speed record skiing
Beyond downhill racing, skiers exceed 200 km/h on specially prepared slopes. Stability disappears at these speeds; a small vibration can become catastrophic. Falls are rarely survivable.

17. Downhill mountain biking (World Cup level)
Riders descend steep tracks at extreme speed, navigating roots, rocks, and jumps. Courses evolve each run as terrain degrades. Crashes often result in broken bones or worse.

18. Professional bull riding
Riders face 2,000-pound animals bred specifically to throw them off. Injuries include crushed ribs, concussions, and internal damage. The danger is constant and cumulative over time.

19. Free solo mixed climbing
Combines rock and ice without ropes. Ice tools may hold—or may shatter. Surfaces change mid-climb, demanding constant recalculation while fully exposed.

20. Unsupported polar expeditions
Traveling alone across Antarctica or the Arctic with no resupply. Extreme cold, crevasses, starvation, and psychological strain push humans to their limits. A single injury often means death.

21. Ultra-endurance desert races (Marathon des Sables)
Runners cross deserts carrying their own supplies in extreme heat. Dehydration, kidney failure, and heat stroke are common. Finishing often requires ignoring severe pain and exhaustion.

22. Freestyle motocross big-air
Riders launch motorcycles dozens of feet into the air while performing rotations and flips. Landings must be perfect; mistakes result in spinal injuries or paralysis. Innovation outpaces safety.

Why this matters for Lindsey Vonn
What unites many of these feats is irreversibility—one mistake, and the story ends. Vonn’s skiing was dangerous, yes, but it was:
- Highly regulated
- Technically repeatable
- Supported by teams, safety nets, and course design

Lindsey Vonn: That’s not recklessness—that’s mastery under risk. The real recklessness label belongs to feats where the margin is effectively zero.
 
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mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Didn't see a video only a couple of still shots. Looked like she got whipped, entangled two polls close. And at the speed she must have been come down, it is not just a swipe by a pole, and she also got screwed up in her skies from that impact.
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
A broken leg isn’t bad given the video of the fall looked really terrible. Being in a hospital in northern Italy isn’t the worst thing either.

Haraldo, you forgot to list the Apollo missions Astronauts launched on top of millions of gallons of highly unstable fuel and rode 250,000 miles to the moon in a contraption where the walls were so thin in places to poke through with a screwdriver.

Point is, risk is part of the game when the stakes are high. And Vonn didn’t risk anyone but herself by skiing.
 
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