Meet the audiophiles!

[Rowdy S13]

I wonder how many of those guys would be able to pick there system over a less expensive set up in a blind folded test.

Sean

 

[MDS]

I wonder how many of those guys would be able to pick there system over a less expensive set up in a blind folded test.

Sean

Easy...zero.

 

[Hi-Fi ve]

But kill me if I ever talk about spending that much money on a system to play vinyl through tube amps.

New guy here. Please take it easy on me, I'm here to learn.

Being uninformed on vinyl, I have to wonder, tube amps are not good match for them?

 

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

Being uninformed on vinyl, I have to wonder, tube amps are not good match for them?

How old are you?

I ask because tube amps only seem to be popular with people who grew-up around them. Most younglings who were born into CDs and solid-state tend to think they sound "strange".

 

[stratman]

New guy here. Please take it easy on me, I'm here to learn.

Being uninformed on vinyl, I have to wonder, tube amps are not good match for them?

Hi Fi ve,

Welcome aboard, here you'll find just about everything related to A/V, the smartest, gruffiest, opinionated, intelligent, rascally, funniest people slither through these forums, heed their advice (most of time ), and you'll learn enough to pick a fight with your local Best Buy salesman trying to sell you overpriced cables. I suggest you read and read through the reviews and the posts, read the primers as written and posted by the big wigs (them, you have to listen to ) As far as vinyl and tubes....lets just say that "a well engineered vinyl set up, will out perform a digital playback system of less quality" apart from that read on, and enjoy yourself.

Stratman, by the way I'm not the offcial, official greeter.

 

[emorphien]

How old are you?

I ask because tube amps only seem to be popular with people who grew-up around them. Most younglings who were born into CDs and solid-state tend to think they sound "strange".

I like tubes alright, but they do sound different. I don't find them better. I like vinyl as well, and for some things prefer it (depending on how it was mastered) but again it's not a case of vinyl being superior to CDs like so many people make it out to be. If anything they both have their pros and cons, but CDs are a hell of a lot easier to live with.

 

[stratman]

I like tubes alright, but they do sound different. I don't find them better. I like vinyl as well, and for some things prefer it (depending on how it was mastered) but again it's not a case of vinyl being superior to CDs like so many people make it out to be. If anything they both have their pros and cons, but CDs are a hell of a lot easier to live with.

Amen to that, I wouldn't go back to the cleaning, the cartridges, the stylus, the arm, the this, the that..............I outgrew it. CDs are easier to live with.

The only tubes I listen to are the tubes in my Marshall, that's it.

 

[emorphien]

Amen to that, I wouldn't go back to the cleaning, the cartridges, the stylus, the arm, the this, the that..............I outgrew it. CDs are easier to live with.

The only tubes I listen to are the tubes in my Marshall, that's it.

It hasn't grown old for me yet. I still enjoy vinyl

 

[stratman]

I don't have the gear anymore, got rid of it as Cds hit the market, I haven't looked back. Vinyl is a hobby unto itself with all the corresponding paraphernalia that goes along with it. It's just no my thing any longer.

 

[Resident Loser]

Watch out!...

New guy here. Please take it easy on me, I'm here to learn.

Being uninformed on vinyl, I have to wonder, tube amps are not good match for them?

...here comes one of those snot-ball opinions you were warned about...

Thinkin' about it, vinyl and tubes do sorta' go together...All vinyl before the advent of SS gear was most likely recorded, mixed, mastered and cut using tubed analog gear...and even after SS took hold in the consumer market there were probably few recording studios/companies who would spring for updating their gear, particularly for the pop side of the house...It was the classical and specialty companies that embraced digital in it's beginnings, so it's stands to reason that's pretty much how the changover from vacuum tubes to semiconductors went...and there are companies who do still make analog tubed electronics, like Avalon, for the pro market...however...

No matter how you slice and dice it, tube technology for playback is really an anachronism...you really can't do much to re-invent the single-end triode amp...You can use fancy, directional wire, silver solder and all the rest of the audiophool hoo-ha but...but...given the fact there are no US mfrs. of 6L6s and 12AX7s etc. you have to rely on the crap-shoot that is NOS (New Old Stock) of 30-50 yr-old domestic product or high-priced Sovtek or Chinese imports...and the only real reason the Russkis kept usin' them is because they will survive the EMP of a nuclear weapon, though certainly not the blast...

Tubes do sound different and some prefer and swear by them, but IMHO unless you have your father's or grandfather's cherry vintage gear or discovered a cache of tube-recorded vinyl and are looking for some sort of retro, kindred synergy from the comtemporary purveyors of valve technology, you really need to ask yourself: why?

jimHJJ(...guitar amps? Well that's a whole 'nother thing...)

P.S. Most of my stuff is vinyl/analog tape and I have < 50 CDs only a very few of which are dupes of my analog collection...I like the ritual of vinyl...CDs are quieter obviously, but it's reduced the overall experience to something like making toast.

 

[emorphien]

but it's reduced the overall experience to something like making toast.

haha there's an interesting analogy

 

[Hi-Fi ve]

No matter how you slice and dice it, tube technology for playback is really an anachronism...


Tubes do sound different and some prefer and swear by them, but IMHO unless you have your father's or grandfather's cherry vintage gear or discovered a cache of tube-recorded vinyl and are looking for some sort of retro, kindred synergy from the comtemporary purveyors of valve technology, you really need to ask yourself: why?

I thought it is the “difference” in sound that’s preferred by the tube fans regardless of the source component used. Just wondering if there was something else about the combination of vinyl and tube amps that I didn’t know about. Yes, it was that way for quite a while.

 

[majorloser]

Stratman, by the way I'm not the offcial, official greeter.

But when you retire you want to be a Walmart greeter

 

[Resident Loser]

Sure he does...

But when you retire you want to be a Walmart greeter

...it's s-o-o-o easy a caveman could do it!

jimHJJ(...hey...watch that club, bub...)

 

[Dolby CP-200]

This is what happens when the wife finds out her husband as been spending £250.000 on Hi-Fi system!

"You spent how much on that Hi-Fi! Where are you, you little bugger"?

 

[stratman]

But when you retire you want to be a Walmart greeter

Not too shabby.....Walmart greeter, I like the sound of that. Beats being near that damned green lizard, stupid lizard, thinks he's soooooo smart, bet he can't be a Walmart greeter.

 

[stratman]

...it's s-o-o-o easy a caveman could do it!

jimHJJ(...hey...watch that club, bub...)

You're treading on thin ice bud, lizard doesn't make those remarks anymore (I hate the lizard, death to the lizard, yes Death!!!!! to the lizard) wait I hear my analyst, sorry fellas got to go.

 

[Dolby CP-200]

What’s with the lizard thing? I found a few lizards they may appear normal on the outside.

 

[Seth=L]

What’s with the lizard thing? I found a few lizards they may appear normal on the outside.

In America there is an insurance company called "Geico". Their original mascot was a gecko (lizard as stratman refers to it). The Gecko is computer animated, talks, and has an Aussie accent. Then after a few years they changed the mascot, if you could call it that, to the caveman (neanderthal stratman). The slogan used now is "So easy, a caveman can do it" it has been very hard for the neanderthal community, especially stratman, to deal with the degradation. Every once and a while the Gecko still gets commercials. I just realized something, I wish I had invested in Geico when I first heard of it, that would have been a really good investment.

 

[stratman]

Ha,ha,ha,ha.