Love my new LINN's !!!

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dyeraudio

Audiophyte
Grabbed these in an auction here in Chicago at Saturday Audio Exchange....Passive, tri-wireable, Ku-Stone bases....
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Sweet! Are you willing to put up some pictures for us? You might need a couple of more posts (which at your posting rate will be sometime in 2010 :D). Just kidding with you. I'm happy that you got yourself some new gear, and I honestly would like to see some photos. Thanks!
 
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dyeraudio

Audiophyte
I can't until my post count is higher....got some great photos though...currently have them bi-wired with PS Audio Statements....:D:D:D
 
davidtwotrees

davidtwotrees

Audioholic General
Yep, need some pics! I'm in the burbs of Chicago. I check the SAE often. Never been there, but they tell me it's nice!
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Why are the speakers so close together? Is it possible to move them out wider, and also, move them forward, farther from the rear wall? These two things will considerably help sound quality in regards to soundstage and clarity.

-Chris
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Why are the speakers so close together? Is it possible to move them out wider, and also, move them forward, farther from the rear wall? These two things will considerably help sound quality in regards to soundstage and clarity.

-Chris
If moving the speakers out from the rear wall is not an option, what should be done sound absorption wise to to benefit sound quality?

I'm thinking a 2" thick panel that is taller and wider than the speaker. That sound right?
 
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dyeraudio

Audiophyte
Good catch....Bob Carver developed Sonic Holography which is a complex addition to the soundstage....His diagram for speaker placement recommends speakers being placed about 6 feet apart with a toe-in of 1 1/2 inches....plus LINN speakers were designed to be placed close to the wall for the best imaging....LINNs are made in Scotland and like most UK manufacturers they keep in mind that alot of the apartments in the UK are so small you can barely change your mind in them...thus, speakers closer to the wall leave you more room for soundstage and imaging.....The one thing that really doesn't apply here is the distance from the back wall because of the speaker design....This was taken from my Carver manual....

 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Good catch....Bob Carver developed Sonic Holography which is a complex addition to the soundstage....His diagram for speaker placement recommends speakers being placed about 6 feet apart with a toe-in of 1 1/2 inches....plus LINN speakers were designed to be placed close to the wall for the best imaging....LINNs are made in Scotland and like most UK manufacturers they keep in mind that alot of the apartments in the UK are so small you can barely change your mind in them...thus, speakers closer to the wall leave you more room for soundstage and imaging.....The one thing that really doesn't apply here is the distance from the back wall because of the speaker design....This was taken from my Carver manual....

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Being close to the back wall does not have any direct correlation to increasing soundstage with a monopolar speaker. And with a dipole, bipole or omni, it would simply be disastrous. But placing a monopole this far into the back of the room like that with the listening position so far away will ensure that you hear a dominate level of ambient/reflected sound, drowning out the direct sound. If you move them farther away from the wall, say, within 6-7' of you and 4' from the wall, and with a much wider spacing, the sound quality should improve dramatically, with reduced room influence(which you really want to reduce with a speaker like this). Adjust toe in for best imaging. Now, you are left with the fact that if this was designed to be close to a back wall, then the baffle step compensation will not be sufficient on the speaker when placed out into the room. You can correct this with a precision EQ that has a shelving filter function, such as a Behringer DCX2496. You simply calculate the 1/2 wavelength distance of the front baffle, then enter a low shelving filter in the DSP EQ of this frequency, with a 6db/octave slope. Then increase relative level of this correction curve until the lower mid-range and mid-bass is at the appropriate level. If you can not move them as specified, then substantial acoustics treatment is highly recommended. Right now, I believe the SQ potential of those speakers is not being met.

-Chris
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
If moving the speakers out from the rear wall is not an option, what should be done sound absorption wise to to benefit sound quality?

I'm thinking a 2" thick panel that is taller and wider than the speaker. That sound right?
When dealing with close back wall placement, if you are trying to kill the early reflection of the lower-midrange and mid-bass that wraps around the cabinet in an omni-polar radiation pattern due to the wavelengths being larger than the cabinet, then 2" is not suggested. A minimum of 4", and suggested 6", should be used, of high density fiberglass or rockwool based acoustical treatments. The panel should be substantially larger than the speaker. I would recommend a minimum of 2 x 2' x 4' panels behind EACH speaker if you desire substantial reduction of this reflection.

-Chris
 
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dyeraudio

Audiophyte
Being close to the back wall does not have any direct correlation to increasing soundstage with a monopolar speaker. And with a dipole, bipole or omni, it would simply be disastrous. But placing a monopole this far into the back of the room like that with the listening position so far away will ensure that you hear a dominate level of ambient/reflected sound, drowning out the direct sound. If you move them farther away from the wall, say, within 6-7' of you and 4' from the wall, and with a much wider spacing, the sound quality should improve dramatically, with reduced room influence(which you really want to reduce with a speaker like this). Adjust toe in for best imaging. Now, you are left with the fact that if this was designed to be close to a back wall, then the baffle step compensation will not be sufficient on the speaker when placed out into the room. You can correct this with a precision EQ that has a shelving filter function, such as a Behringer DCX2496. You simply calculate the 1/2 wavelength distance of the front baffle, then enter a low shelving filter in the DSP EQ of this frequency, with a 6db/octave slope. Then increase relative level of this correction curve until the lower mid-range and mid-bass is at the appropriate level. If you can not move them as specified, then substantial acoustics treatment is highly recommended. Right now, I believe the SQ potential of those speakers is not being met.

-Chris
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