looking to buy some speakers

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BassGeek0190

Audiophyte
Hello to all,
first off i m new here on audioholics forums. I heard about this place from a podcast which i wanted to come and check it out. any who,here's my question.

I am looking to buy some "decent" book shelfs speaker system that sounds not to "bright". Something that sounds warm sounding like in a true theater setup.
I all ready have a receiver and a sub woofer,these speakers will be powering via pioneer elite 92 model receiver and a hsu vtf-1 10" sub woofer. I just want a 3.1 to start out with,and ill ad surrounds later down the road. my bed room is only about 10x14 with 12 ft ceilings. I was looking to buy some polk audio bookshelfs but some people say they tend to be "bright". what bookshelfs speakers and center channel you all would recommend? i have a budget of $700 yes,very tight budget.
 
ozmedia

ozmedia

Audioholic
Tight budget

Hello to all,
first off i m new here on audioholics forums. I heard about this place from a podcast which i wanted to come and check it out. any who,here's my question.

I am looking to buy some "decent" book shelfs speaker system that sounds not to "bright". Something that sounds warm sounding like in a true theater setup.
I all ready have a receiver and a sub woofer,these speakers will be powering via pioneer elite 92 model receiver and a hsu VF-1 10" sub woofer. I just want a 3.1 to start out with,and ill ad surrounds later down the road. my bed room is only about 10x14 with 12 ft ceilings. I was looking to buy some polk audio bookshelfs but some people say they tend to be "bright". what bookshelfs speakers and center channel you all would recommend? i have a budget of $700 yes,very tight budget.
Nice idea to look around if you are considering Polk, though they are inexpensive these days, quality has gone so far downhill that their bookshelf models barely pass as mid-fi quality.

I am a biased RBH advocate, proudly touted as the best speaker you've never heard of. :D

RBH used to be the OEM builder for JBL, Fosgate and MacIntosh before offering their own brand about 30 years ago. They also make three other brands under the names Destination audio and EMP (entry level) and Status Acoustics (very high end), with RBH covering the full gamut.

When I first read your post I thought of the Signature bookshelves, http://rbhsound.com/61se.shtmlbut they are above your budget, the MC series bookshelves are also intense but may be a little high priced also at just under $1000.00/pr for the MC-6C (6.5" aluminum woofer, crisp and detailed but not bright or sibilant) \
See Audioholics review of RBH MC series here: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/bookshelf/rbh-sound-mc-6c-bookshelf-speaker-review/?searchterm=MC-6C.

There is also an MC4C, if you have a sub this will be fine. They cost around $550.00 Canadian and will outperform almost anything in their price range. RBH are usually compared to speakers twice or three times their price for fair reviews as they are not parted out, keeping costs down as they manufacture their own products with their own parts, such as using their own proprietary aluminum drivers usually found in much more expensive products.


To save a little more money, and get into that warm mellow midrange sound, (such as B&W and other European products), RBH offers a mid range product, TK Series that uses the fiberglass cones (they look like B&W's).

Though RBH discontinued the TK series, they can still be found if you look around. An Alternative is EMP (available through Audioholics store for $320.00/pr US: http://store.audioholics.com/product/1674/66313/emp-ef30-bookshelf-speakers--pair- or Destination audio, who both offer a TK series clone, not exactlythe same (different cone materials) but very similar.

In short, you may find less expensive speakers, you may find speakers that sound as good or better, but you will be very hard pressed to find something that sounds as good as an RBH product for the same or less money. High performance audio at cost effective pricing. Regardless, ANYTHING you buy from RBH (including their new aluminum driver patio speakers for around $500.00 which are like the MC-6C but in an indoor/outdoor housing http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/architectural/mc-6aw/?searchterm=MC-6AW ) will far outperform Polk bookshelves.


"As I listened, over and over I kept forgetting that these were small indoor/outdoor speakers and kept thinking they sounded better than some speakers I’ve reviewed from more prestigious brands costing several thousands of dollars." Audioholics MC-6AW (Patio or indoor speakers!) review by Ken Stein

"The fact that the MC-6C’s could outgun pricier speakers on the market is a testament to a speaker company not so concerned with profit margins as much as they are with bringing a high performance product to market."
Audioholics MC-6C review by Gene DellaSala


"The answer lies in the excellent proprietary aluminum cone woofers with powerful motor structures developed by RBH Sound. Such is the case with the new Signature 61-SE bookshelf loudspeakers.

Bottom Line: I can without a doubt recommend these speakers for those who are looking for an attractive, dynamic, high performance compact loudspeaker system, with excellent bass capabilities, imaging and tonal balance for a very reasonable price tag."
Audioholics SE-61 review by Gene DellaSala
 
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BassGeek0190

Audiophyte
thanks ozmedia,i'll be sure to check them out.
are there any other brands that i might look into?
 
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ace0001a

Junior Audioholic
You might want to look into internet direct speaker companies that let your audition the speakers at home where you're actually going to be using them. That's the only way to know whether any speakers you want to buy will sound good to you or not. Many of them have a 30-day in home trial period and if you don't like them, you can send them back for a full refund.

TSC is a new company that has gotten rave reviews and they're arguably the best bang for the buck around. They have a 5.1 bookshelf package for $615 shipped:

http://www.thespeakercompany.com/TSBST-HT-P114C33.aspx

Another ID speaker company that comes highly recommended is Aperion Audio and their base bookshelf package will run you $1000 shipped:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/Intimus-4B-Harmony-SA,185,70,453.aspx

Axiom Audio is a highly regarded for making excellent sounding speakers. Their base bookshelf package is around $1300+:

http://www.axiomaudio.com/epicmidi_main.html

TSC and Aperion have free shipping both ways, so really you don't have anything to lose to give either a try. I think Axiom is the same, but not sure.
 
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3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Hello to all,
first off i m new here on audioholics forums. I heard about this place from a podcast which i wanted to come and check it out. any who,here's my question.

I am looking to buy some "decent" book shelfs speaker system that sounds not to "bright". Something that sounds warm sounding like in a true theater setup.
I all ready have a receiver and a sub woofer,these speakers will be powering via pioneer elite 92 model receiver and a hsu vtf-1 10" sub woofer. I just want a 3.1 to start out with,and ill ad surrounds later down the road. my bed room is only about 10x14 with 12 ft ceilings. I was looking to buy some polk audio bookshelfs but some people say they tend to be "bright". what bookshelfs speakers and center channel you all would recommend? i have a budget of $700 yes,very tight budget.
That kinda scratch for a 3.1 system could get you into PSB's Image B25s for left and right and a C40 as the center channel. The B25s received rave reviews from Stereophile touting it as teh best speaker in its price class that year.
 
droht

droht

Full Audioholic
BassGeek, you can do well with that budget. I'd look for something used. Ascend 170SEs, or even 340SEs, av123 x-ls encores, Usher S520s, and I'll second the PSB Image 25s. You take a bit of a risk buying used, but if you go with someone with 100% feedback who has been around a while you are pretty safe, I think. Check classifieds here, AudiogoN, AudioCircle, etc. Hell, I feel more secure buying privately than I do from quite a few of the "respectable" companies that get mentioned here.
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
I would also suggest the Epos ELS-3 if you can find them for audition. If you can bump the budget a little or if you can just get the L/R for now and get the center later, look to the Era D4 or Epos M5. Other brands I like are Castle and Triangle.

These are out of the ordinary recommendations but I find I don't care for the sound of the usual mass consumer market speakers. These brands fall into the undefined category of the British Sound. If you get a chance to hear any of these brands, you'll see what I mean.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Hello to all,
first off i m new here on audioholics forums. I heard about this place from a podcast which i wanted to come and check it out. any who,here's my question.

I am looking to buy some "decent" book shelfs speaker system that sounds not to "bright". Something that sounds warm sounding like in a true theater setup.
I all ready have a receiver and a sub woofer,these speakers will be powering via pioneer elite 92 model receiver and a hsu vtf-1 10" sub woofer. I just want a 3.1 to start out with,and ill ad surrounds later down the road. my bed room is only about 10x14 with 12 ft ceilings. I was looking to buy some polk audio bookshelfs but some people say they tend to be "bright". what bookshelfs speakers and center channel you all would recommend? i have a budget of $700 yes,very tight budget.
The ideal is three identical speakers, and even better is to have them on the same plane. Perfect acoustic match, ideal horiz dispersion of center speaker, even height of all drivers for best panning.

Having owned B25s, and familiar with 170Se, I think the first is warmer, will have better extension. The second is a bit clearer. I like both choices. The B25s are VERY large for a bookshelf, however.

I'm not sure that AH store would split a pair for you, but if they did, you mebbe could get 3x Usher 520s for $600. I've never heard them, but they've been on most people's short list for bookshelves at the less than $500 mark.

Swerd here has got me pretty interested in Salk bookshelves, and you could swing 3x SS1s. What's nice about ID (internet direct) is that they can sell you that individual/identical center speaker.

As for why the typical horiz MTM is a compromise you can read this article.
http://www.audioholics.com/education/loudspeaker-basics/vertical-vs-horizontal-speaker-designs
 
ozmedia

ozmedia

Audioholic
thanks ozmedia,i'll be sure to check them out.
are there any other brands that i might look into?
As noted, you can get the EMP equivalent right here on Audioholics, they are a great value for money and very well built for an inexpensive speaker.

They were reviewed here: http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/emp-speaker-package-blowout-sale/?searchterm=emp review

They say they are vurtually identical to TK-5C's, the real difference is actually the woofer cone material is slightly different but still very similar sounding.
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
From the description of your room size your budget and the type of sound that you want, I immediately thought of EMP, so I fully second that recommendation!

PSB also jumped to mind, so other folks here are definitely on the same wavelength as me :)
 

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