I'm extremely lucky to have a plumber for a brother in law and it has saved me a bundle.\n\nI'm very much a DIY guy, but plumbing of a certain level isn't something I mess with. Drains are fine, and so is anything close to that, but when it comes to the actual water lines, nope. Not risking it.\n\nIt's a bit weird that he's also a RIchard...\n\nI got this shirt for when he comes over.\n\n\n\n\nAs Swerd's brother I NEED that T-shirt.\n\nWe grew up in the same house with the same old man and I learned how to snake a drain as a kid. I also have a 25 ft Amazon snake for maybe fifteen years. First wife and daughter with long hair. Rich you could have borrowed my snake and saved 25 smackers.