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LoudAsFudge

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Anyone have experience rotating their settup 45deg. And placing L &R in the corners across from each other diagonally, with a center channel in the "middle" corner. This puts the listener in the fourth corner, with the ability to follow a diagonal line towards center of room. There's is almost a membrane of bass in that corner and I like being just outside said membrane, with the option to lean back into it. Room is about 19'x21'
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
Anyone have experience rotating their settup 45deg. And placing L &R in the corners across from each other diagonally, with a center channel in the "middle" corner. This puts the listener in the fourth corner, with the ability to follow a diagonal line towards center of room. There's is almost a membrane of bass in that corner and I like being just outside said membrane, with the option to lean back into it. Room is about 19'x21'
No one who knows even the most elementary acoustics would ever do that. That is a good plan for throwing money down the drain.
 
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LoudAsFudge

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Can you elaborate on why it's a bad idea? I have the luxury of being able to place the speakers pretty much wherever I want and I've tried a whole bunch of arrangements, including taping the floor and using L.O.T.S technique. I also use Dirac Live. This cross corner setup sounds pretty good.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
Can you elaborate on why it's a bad idea? I have the luxury of being able to place the speakers pretty much wherever I want and I've tried a whole bunch of arrangements, including taping the floor and using L.O.T.S technique. I also use Dirac Live. This cross corner setup sounds pretty good.
Because the front speakers should face down the long axis of the room and the seating parallel with the short axis. This minimizes reflection interference and optimizes the bass response.

The main speakers should be at least 14" from the side and rear boundary and face down the long axis. Speakers should optimally be 12' to 14' feet part preferably at least 10'. The center speaker should be equidistant between them.
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

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Because the front speakers should face down the long axis of the room and the seating parallel with the short axis. This minimizes reflection interference and optimizes the bass response.
agreed

The main speakers should be at least 14" from the side and rear boundary and face down the long axis. Speakers should optimally be 12' to 14' feet part preferably at least 10'. The center speaker should be equidistant between them.
completely room dependent ..........
 
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LoudAsFudge

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I've done it that way my whole life. I'm familiar with that. My other listening spaces are set up that way right now. However, this kitty corner arrangement is pretty cool, I suggest others try it. The reflections might be better in a diamond shape if you stop and think about it. Most of the reflections get funneled to you from their respective side, with the later reflections ending up opposite the listening "corner", a good distance away.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
agreed



completely room dependent ..........
I think it is much more speaker dependent than room dependent. Far too many speakers can not produce a seamless image between two speakers at an optimal distance apart. "The hole in the middle" is a major tip off to a serious design shortcoming in a speaker.
 
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LoudAsFudge

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Speakers are Yamaha DZR315. 2000W. Pretty big.
 
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LoudAsFudge

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Just for a sanity check, I put the speakers back in the more traditional orientation. Pics are too big file size. Super annoying trying to post pics. They probably sound better in the traditional arrangement but its hard to tell. Kitty corner setup is better though because there is no sweet spot. Entire garage is filled with glorious sound and the massive speakers are out of the way in the corners. Anyone with a garage should try it out, doesn't cost anything. In a kitty corner setup my speakers are about 23' apart.
 
ski2xblack

ski2xblack

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I had a room where a diagonal orientation was the only option. It was a decently sized rectangular family room, but the short wall where the speakers would ideally be placed had a fireplace in the right corner. Neither of the long walls lent themselves to orient the system that way, and the back wall, the other short dimension, had open stairwells and doors, so that wasn't an option.

So diagonal was it, with the system shifted to the left front corner area. Seating was arranged such that the boob tube and fireplace could both be enjoyed. The couch was diagonally oriented, parallel to the plane of the speakers. The left and right speakers were far enough out of the corners to be spaced wider than the couch, resulting in a perfect equilateral triangle with the center seat of the couch.

It ended up working fairly well, better than expected to be honest. The most significant difference from a typical longitudinal orientation was a distinct reduction of hard, early reflections, resulting in more direct to reflected sound. With more "source" and less "room" hitting the ears, it imaged rather well.
 
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j_garcia

j_garcia

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I had a setup like this for a few years due to a sliding glass door on one side and it worked well enough. The MAIN issue is bass. Your listening position and sub placement become critical, because you are more likely to encounter nulls with an angled setup.

23' apart means you should be 23' away from them. That's too far for good imaging, but good for a wide, dispersed sound.
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic General
Have to admit, I was confused by this thread until I realized it's really talking about Catacorner.
This is Kitty Corner.

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j_garcia

j_garcia

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"Kitty" corner is the almost universally accepted slang for the actual term haha. I was picturing a litter box...
 

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