Jack Kervorkian out of the joint.

[highfihoney]

Here in Detroit its pretty big news that DR Jack Kervorkian AKA DR Death was released from prison today,ofcourse the media was following him around like vultures,trying to get him to say something,That idiot Mike Wallace was even there when they let him out,if i was Jack i'd of kicked him right in the nut's.

 

[Seth=L]

At least he won't be continuing his practice. He has Hepatitis C apparently and only has an estimated 1 year left to live.

 

[majorloser]

At least he won't be continuing his practice. He has Hepatitis C apparently and only has an estimated 1 year left to live.

Still plenty of time to market the "Dr. K's DIY Home Kits"

 

[Seth=L]

Still plenty of time to market the "Dr. K's DIY Home Kits"

LMAO, yep. Maybe he will be the next Charles Manson, only for suicide/homicide.

 

[highfihoney]

I know if i was deathly ill or in extreme pain for the rest of my life i'd want a guy like Jack around.

Makes no sense to me why people freak out about others ending their own life,hospitals should offer the servece if you ask me.

 

[Rob Babcock]

The philosopher ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER wrote on the subject of suicide "That anyone who no longer wishes to live for himself must go on living merely as a machine for others to use is an extravagant demand." I could put it no better. If I no longer wish to live for myself, why should anyone's elses opinion to the contrary hold more weight than my own desire? Such a selfish expectation of society! I suspect than when we die we become as we were before we were born.

Dr. K was, if not a hero, a very compassionate many who was metaphorically crucified by wicked men for performing the last act of mercy he could for his patients. I wish him the best of luck.

 

[avaserfi]

Many people seem to get caught up in this whole living a long life is good idea, but living and being healthy is more important. If you look at the hypocratic oath doctors say they will do no harm. It could very well be argued someone in extreme pain who is being forced to stay alive by societal conventions is having harm done specifically by doctors and their religious moral constrants.

That being said I plan on going to medical school and hope I never have to face a position like Dr. K did when I am practicing.

 

[mtrycrafts]

.. Such a selfish expectation of society!

Well, it is deeply rooted in the supernatural belief system some carry as a baggage

.. I suspect than when we die we become as we were before we were born.
.

Not sure about that. Only a tiny cell/s started it but leaves behind a whole carcass to decompose into matter of some sort.

 

[loserwife]

Dr. K was, if not a hero, a very compassionate many who was metaphorically crucified by wicked men for performing the last act of mercy he could for his patients. I wish him the best of luck.

I agree with you 100%, but unfortunately religion will always interfere with anyone's right to live or die.

 

[mike c]

I agree with you 100%, but unfortunately religion will always interfere with anyone's right to live or die.

personally, I do not agree with "suicide" (religion and all) but I would definitely not judge others who do.

 

[Rickster71]

The philosopher ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER wrote on the subject of suicide "That anyone who no longer wishes to live for himself must go on living merely as a machine for others to use is an extravagant demand." I could put it no better. If I no longer wish to live for myself, why should anyone's elses opinion to the contrary hold more weight than my own desire? Such a selfish expectation of society! I suspect than when we die we become as we were before we were born.

Dr. K was, if not a hero, a very compassionate many who was metaphorically crucified by wicked men for performing the last act of mercy he could for his patients. I wish him the best of luck.

I agree 100%
Dr. K was ahead of his time.

The system will only make money if people are kept alive, to die slowly.

I wonder if he got the fruit basket I sent?

 

[FguerraG]

The philosopher ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER wrote on the subject of suicide "That anyone who no longer wishes to live for himself must go on living merely as a machine for others to use is an extravagant demand." I could put it no better. If I no longer wish to live for myself, why should anyone's elses opinion to the contrary hold more weight than my own desire? Such a selfish expectation of society! I suspect than when we die we become as we were before we were born.

Dr. K was, if not a hero, a very compassionate many who was metaphorically crucified by wicked men for performing the last act of mercy he could for his patients. I wish him the best of luck.

Very interesting point , I myself have had BIG TALKS about this with friends and family , about me not wanting to be kept alive upon some sort of accident or illness regardless of morality or religion , you have to be very careful about that

you don't want to end trapped inside yourself without the ability to comunicate and put everyone else in the predicament of making choices for you.

in the case of Dr. Kevorkian I too believe that he is ahead of his time and in time society will adapt to a more advanced form of thinking.

 

[mtrycrafts]

but I would definitely not judge others who do.

As it should be.

But noooo, those high and mighty want to control others' actions and life choices, in this and in sooo many other areas

 

[mtrycrafts]

I wonder if he got the fruit basket I sent?

Ah, you are killing me
Ask him. Now he can be honest with you

 

[stratman]

Be carefull of what you wish for, euthanasia regardless of religious/moral opinion is a double edge sword, Hitler used it with much success to weed out the undesireables: the handicapped, mentally "unstable", those of "un-pure" blood. Couple that with genetic profiling and you've got a nightmare of sci-fi blockbuster proportions. Once the genie is out and it becomes institutionalized............Brave New World.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Be carefull of what you wish for, euthanasia regardless of religious/moral opinion is a double edge sword, Hitler used it with much success to weed out the undesireables: the handicapped, mentally "unstable", those of "un-pure" blood. Couple that with genetic profiling and you've got a nightmare of sci-fi blockbuster proportions. Once the genie is out and it becomes institutionalized............Brave New World.

But there is a difference between forced killing and self taking, a personal choice.

 

[loserwife]

you don't want to end trapped inside yourself without the ability to comunicate and put everyone else in the predicament of making choices for you.

Exactly.....



“Please, please save my little girl,” cried Mary Schindler, the mother Terri

Schiavo (I salute her for her inspiring love for her daughter)

“Terri will not like to live in this state so must not be allowed to live,”

says her husband Michael Schiavo who as he keeps saying “ Terri must die

to save her from her traumatic condition she finds herself so an ethical

question: who should decide whether I live or die?"

 

[mike c]

question: who should decide whether I live or die?"

and that is the million dollar question!

of course if mother and husband agrees, it's less of an issue ... (only issue here is if the person him/her-self doesn't agree with euthanasia or was not able to talk about it before hand)

 

[stratman]

But there is a difference between forced killing and self taking, a personal choice.

Understood, but the problem is once it becomes institutional the choice of wether you live or die will be directed by another entity. Thus if you're using too many medical resources you could theoretically be "useless/high risk" and thus a candidate for euthanasia, wether you want it or not. This is my beef.

read this link it's very fascinating: http://cbhd.org/resources/endoflife/jochemsen_2000-11-29.htm

 

[avaserfi]

Understood, but the problem is once it becomes institutional the choice of wether you live or die will be directed by another entity. Thus if you're using too many medical resources you could theoretically be "useless/high risk" and thus a candidate for euthanasia, wether you want it or not. This is my beef.

read this link it's very fascinating: http://cbhd.org/resources/endoflife/jochemsen_2000-11-29.htm

While an interesting read the paper glosses over a few points. The Doctors job is to provide the proper care for the patient, with consent being of up most priority along side legal protection (especially in this case) for all those involved. If the doctor does not believe in the given treatment yet it is the best choice for the patient it is their duty to at least allow access to said treatment. This is just like pharmacists refusing the contraception pills on a religious bases to those prescribed it.

If a treatment is legally allowed and could be the proper choice it is irresponsible to disallow it on any grounds as long as it is not harming the uninvolved.

With a system of proper checks and balances a legalized euthanasia system could save thousands from undo suffering.