hey all. just wanted an audience to vent to. weve been saving gift cards for months and finally turned them all into amazon gc. been wanting a new avr w 4k ect. i have a 10 yr old Yamaha 1065? now thats got sum issues. so with 500 & 1200 in gc i excitedly ordered a denon 4500. bought from world wide, in penn. im in Las Vegas. ordered last wed afternoon. selected my amazon day which is sat. amazon said id get it sat. watched it closely on amazon & it just sat there in limbo wed,thurs, fri. Friday, with no movement into "shipped", i contacted amazon. they assured me its in the shipping phase & ill get it sat. i thought thats wierd, im in vegas, are they going to overnight it? sat came, got all my other norm stuff as expected. says it shipped. watched sat, & sun as it left Tracy California, to mathers California, to Louisville ky!, then back to Ontario California. then finally to Vegas mon morn. i just happen to have the flu, so i called out & waited. otherwise i considered having it shipped to ups store & id just pick up. late yesterday afternoon finally got here. yay. irritated, but happy im getting new avr. large outer box was undamaged & sealed. actual avr box had a gouge in the side. opened it up & what ya know! the front display broke. so immediately filed for return. im dropping it off at ups today. one of the things that bugs me is the outer box had a Vegas address on it. so i mapped it & its an amazon returns facility...(weirdly, about a block from my work)....if we get the full 1700 back onto out card, ill be buying from a brick and mortar like best buy. (the best buys here are dumps so i usually avoid em) incidentally, the price dropped in the last day. so maybe its a blessing in disguise, so long as my return goes through. im a delivery driver, and i know things go wrong in shipping. things get broke, stolen, lost ect. anyway have any of you had issues with world wide? i haven't had good experiences ordering anything from the east coast. its seems like i bought something that didn't exist, & wws just bought from an amazon warehouse. which was a return. this sucks, i was so looking forward to this avr. anyway buyer beware, thanks for listening.