Is the Onkyo TX-RZ70 the Best AVR under $3000?

Isosevodes

Isosevodes

Junior Audioholic
The reviews are stellar, whilst the comparisons are few. Thank you in advance!
 
Tankini

Tankini

Audioholic Chief
Oh boy, your gonna upset a lot of Denon fanboys on AH. Lol. You like it? Buy it. As far as best? Subjectively?
 
mono-bloc

mono-bloc

Senior Audioholic
Reviews only tell you what you want to hear.

When did you last read a review where they reported the item as rubbish.. It's never going to happen ,, Everythings five star, and wonderful
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
The reviews are stellar, whilst the comparisons are few. Thank you in advance!
I think your safest bet is Yamaha, specifically this one Yamaha RX-A8A AVENTAGE

Onkyo may be OK, but they are just emerging after an ownership change. Denon/Marantz are in turmoil at the moment, I have had two bad experiences with them under Masimo ownership. You really only know if they are any good by how many develop problems and how warranty claims are handled.
 
Isosevodes

Isosevodes

Junior Audioholic
I think your safest bet is Yamaha, specifically this one Yamaha RX-A8A AVENTAGE

Onkyo may be OK, but they are just emerging after an ownership change. Denon/Marantz are in turmoil at the moment, I have had two bad experiences with them under Masimo ownership. You really only know if they are any good by how many develop problems and how warranty claims are handled.
Thank you for the input. I’ve read great things about the Yamaha A8A as well. Have a great day!
 
Teetertotter?

Teetertotter?

Audioholic Chief
"Denon/Marantz are in turmoil at the moment"
[Can you explain??? Both are of the DM Group]

I have owned Denon AVR's since 1993 and no Issues. I currently have a working 2017 Denon, resting on the side. I get a new model every so often.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
[Can you explain??? Both are of the DM Group]

I have owned Denon AVR's since 1993 and no Issues. I currently have a working 2017 Denon, resting on the side. I get a new model every so often.
That is a long story that has been well covered here. Short version, their current owners Masimo have run the outfit into the ground and chalking up large losses. Recently, Harmon International, owned by Samsung, have purchased Sound United for less than 25% of what Masimo paid for the outfit. Now the Federal Trade commission have held up the sale and going to spend up to a year trying to decide if it constitutes a monopoly or not. Either way it is still a mess. I have had two Marantz AVPs have premature failure of late. This all tends to go hand in hand with a struggling entity.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I think your safest bet is Yamaha, specifically this one Yamaha RX-A8A AVENTAGE

Onkyo may be OK, but they are just emerging after an ownership change. Denon/Marantz are in turmoil at the moment, I have had two bad experiences with them under Masimo ownership. You really only know if they are any good by how many develop problems and how warranty claims are handled.
Your pre-pros were built under Masimo ownership? They were newer than 2022? I thought you had much older ones....
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
How does one qualify for best particularly?
Combination of several things including pride of ownership, measurements, build quality, history of reliability, features, customer support, research and development, etc.

Everybody has different priorities.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Combination of several things including pride of ownership, measurements, build quality, history of reliability, features, customer support, research and development, etc.

Everybody has different priorities.
So may have no actual advantages audibly? Do any mass manufacturers really qualify? There's so little to go on for build quality, history, customer support, R&D, etc.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
So may have no actual advantages audibly? Do any mass manufacturers really qualify? There's so little to go on for build quality, history, customer support, R&D, etc.
Well strictly one was and one was not. They were virtually identical. The 7705 was bought at the end of 2019, and went to the recycling center at the end of 2024. The 7706 was bought in December of 2024, but installed mid January 2025 and failed three months later. I returned it to my dealer for warranty repair three days ago.

I purchased a Marantz 8003, which I still have, in 2008, as it was the first AVP that had HDMI. It replaced my Rotel AVP which did not, bought in 2005. I sold that for good money on eBay.

I purchased two Marantz 7701s in 2012. One for our Eagan town home, so my wife had a good system as she was still working. The other replaced the 8003 in our lake home AV room, as the HDMI needed updating. The 8003 blew a voltage regulator almost immediately it went into service and was promptly fixed under warranty, and had no further issues. As far as I know it is still functional.

I really should not have bought that 7706, as it was so similar to the 7705. But the AV 10 had a huge price tag. Well it did not take long for me to realize my mistake. However my dealer was good to me. When the 7706 returns I will at least put it in the family room and make sure it is working correctly and then think about selling it.

For the record all these units have had house surge protection and been run from an APC. The surge protection for the 7706 was NEC 24 the whole time it was in use.

The 7701 while in our town home did not have surge protection at the panel and no APC. It is working fine in our great room system.

The trouble is that Sound United have been tossed around like a hot potato and also Onkyo. So it is small wonder that quality issues are showing up.

Gene gave a clean bill of health to the AV 10 say I thought that risk was reasonable.
 

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