Interesting observations on budget subwoofers.

killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Field Marshall
What a great thread @KEW Good going!!

Can I please ask, what's the cheapest good sub with a smartphone app?

I'm googling this for days but phones keep popping up, subs, not so much.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Spartan
with all the stress of being in law enforcement now at days
Don't know where your Law Enforcement. Don't know how many Year in you have. I'm retired NYPD. Still involved with the PBA. If your still on the Streets. My suggestion for you. GET OUT!!!
 
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Border411

Enthusiast
Don't know where your Law Enforcement. Don't know how many Year in you have. I'm retired NYPD. Still involved with the PBA. If your still on the Streets. My suggestion for you. GET OUT!!!
Trust me... If I was still on patrol I would GTFO ASAP. I'm a Sergeant at a Sheriff's Office in northern VA. We don't do patrol (I supervise the courts, but we also do transports and the jail which is temporary holding only) 17 years in....8 to go!
 
killdozzer

killdozzer

Audioholic Field Marshall

It shows that this sub is still available for shipping. Almost went this route, but I don't know what your room dimensions and such are.
Damn, this is good!! 99$ for Elac on clearance, 10", 400W?? This is crazy. Even if it's double or triple the price in my country, it's still a bargain.

LATER EDIT: Not available in my parts.
 
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Border411

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@KEW @theJman So I can buy a Hsu VTF-15H for $400 in excellent condition used. Is that a solid buy if it is in good shape? It is 7 years old. I thought I saw something about the amps from around that time having issues. Not to derail the thread, but thought I would ask. Best I can tell is that there isnt a mark on it, and it looks like it was barely used (according to the pictures). Or would a newer VTF2.5 be better?
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
@KEW @theJman So I can buy a Hsu VTF-15H for $400 in excellent condition used. Is that a solid buy if it is in good shape? It is 7 years old. I thought I saw something about the amps from around that time having issues. Not to derail the thread, but thought I would ask. Best I can tell is that there isnt a mark on it, and it looks like it was barely used (according to the pictures). Or would a newer VTF2.5 be better?
I have never actually heard a Hsu subwoofer!
I admire them because they generally bring a level of performance which is better than the competition at most any price-point and they offer a good range of "tunability" to help them integrate with your room gain!
I would call Hsu and ask what a replacement amp costs for an additional data point for your decision. While you are asking that, ask about how often there are problems and if something specific usually causes the failures or anything you should look at before you buy!
7 years is generally not a big concern as far as the mechanics of the speaker. The info you get from talking with Hsu should help you have more confidence in your decision. If the Hsu is obviously well cared for I would not hesitate at $400, if it is beatup, make an lower offer if you still feel good about it working fine.
 
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Border411

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I have never actually heard a Hsu subwoofer!
I admire them because they generally bring a level of performance which is better than the competition at most any price-point and they offer a good range of "tunability" to help them integrate with your room gain!
I would call Hsu and ask what a replacement amp costs for an additional data point for your decision. While you are asking that, ask about how often there are problems and if something specific usually causes the failures or anything you should look at before you buy!
7 years is generally not a big concern as far as the mechanics of the speaker. The info you get from talking with Hsu should help you have more confidence in your decision. If teh Hsu is obvuiously well cared for I would not hesitate at $400, if it is beatup, make an lower offer if you still feel good about it working fine.
Damn....why didnt I think of that?! Will call them shortly.
 
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Border411

Enthusiast
I have never actually heard a Hsu subwoofer!
I admire them because they generally bring a level of performance which is better than the competition at most any price-point and they offer a good range of "tunability" to help them integrate with your room gain!
I would call Hsu and ask what a replacement amp costs for an additional data point for your decision. While you are asking that, ask about how often there are problems and if something specific usually causes the failures or anything you should look at before you buy!
7 years is generally not a big concern as far as the mechanics of the speaker. The info you get from talking with Hsu should help you have more confidence in your decision. If teh Hsu is obvuiously well cared for I would not hesitate at $400, if it is beatup, make an lower offer if you still feel good about it working fine.
Just talked to Kevin himself. Lots of great info. He told me what to check out on the sub to ensure it is functioning properly, and even gave me great info on the original VTF2.5 that I was considering.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Just talked to Kevin himself. Lots of great info. He told me what to check out on the sub to ensure it is functioning properly, and even gave me great info on the original VTF2.5 that I was considering.
If you don't mind, and when you get a chance, share with us what Kevin said about checking out the used sub.
I think that would be of common interest!
 
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Border411

Enthusiast
If you don't mind, and when you get a chance, share with us what Kevin said about checking out the used sub.
I think that would be of common interest!
He said to play 20hz and 100hz tones, and then play around with the volume and crossover knobs. Any "scratchiness" would indicate a misaligned driver, caused by dropping the unit. Changing the crossover after playing various frequencies should result in a change in volume. If there is an issue with the crossover, then I could remove the amp, which will not void any warranty (if there was one) and you can spray electrical component cleaner in the potentiometer to clean off the contacts. Of course, I failed to write a lot of what he said down, so I might be off on that as I was at work.
 
theJman

theJman

Audioholic Chief
@KEW @theJman So I can buy a Hsu VTF-15H for $400 in excellent condition used. Is that a solid buy if it is in good shape? It is 7 years old. I thought I saw something about the amps from around that time having issues. Not to derail the thread, but thought I would ask. Best I can tell is that there isnt a mark on it, and it looks like it was barely used (according to the pictures). Or would a newer VTF2.5 be better?
If it truly is in good shape that seems like a pretty good deal, considering with shipping it was probably at least double that 7 years ago. It would be a better option for your situation that the VTF2; that's a nice subwoofer for sure, but it's not powerful enough to handle what you need it to.
 

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