come Monday.:(......but I'm going to do it right this time and get the Hsu VTF-HO w/ Turbo. I just got to get a little more money together to get it pre-ordered for the $100 instant rebate and half off shipping.:D Here is an update on HSU by Peter on the proposed release date: http://www.hsuresearch.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1844 BTW- there is absolutely nothing wrong with the PB-10, excellent sub and if I had a room that was a bit smaller there would be no second thoughts about keeping it. I'm just a bass-head.