Ice power

[croseiv]

What do you guys think about this? Sure seems nice, but sort of pricey.


http://d-sonic.net/

 

[mazersteven]

Something just doesn't seem right. White Van? Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[croseiv]

Something just doesn't seem right. White Van? Maybe I'm wrong.

I think the company is legit, but it looks like they're using BASH amps, or something close. It seems rather attractive really but on the expensive side.

 

[furrycute]

I would say as white van as av123 and SVS.


B&O manufactures ICE power modules. Independent amp manufacturers purchase these ICE power modules from B&O and use them to build their own digital amps.

The ICE power modules have gotten very favorable reviews across the board. Take a look at the avsforum.

Among the manufacturers that have used the ICE power modules in their new line of digital amps include Jeff Rowland, Rotel, NHT, and many other smaller manufacturers, among them d-sonic.

Something just doesn't seem right. White Van? Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[mazersteven]

The ICE power modules have gotten very favorable reviews across the board. Take a look at the avsforum.

How about a few links to your claims?

 

[croseiv]

I would say as white van as av123 and SVS.


B&O manufactures ICE power modules. Independent amp manufacturers purchase these ICE power modules from B&O and use them to build their own digital amps.

The ICE power modules have gotten very favorable reviews across the board. Take a look at the avsforum.

Among the manufacturers that have used the ICE power modules in their new line of digital amps include Jeff Rowland, Rotel, NHT, and many other smaller manufacturers, among them d-sonic.

Sounds like this may be the newest amp technology? The amps are putting out some high power numbers (according to the webiste), but running cool. The three channel jobby looks pretty appealing.

 

[mike c]

warpdrv has ordered from d-sonic.net - and i trust his word.

and i think they do use the b&o modules.

if i could just afford one, i'd have ordered it already.

 

[Adam]

What do you guys think about this? Sure seems nice, but sort of pricey.


http://d-sonic.net/

Just as some info, I remember viewing that page last year when I was looking into getting an amp. There was a member here that kept pushing them. Too pricey for me, so I didn't look into it much. Do a forum search (if you haven't already) and you might find some more. You might even be able to search on that website address, because I know that I linked to that page from this forum.

 

[furrycute]

The ICE power modules are just one flavor of the many new digital amps out there.

Digital are designed to be more efficient than traditional class A and B amps, that's why digital amps run cooler than traditional amps. And because they run cooler than traditional amps, they don't require large power supplies and heat sinks. This makes digital amps much lighter than traditional amps.

Still, not all digital amps are created equal. And not all digital amps based on the ICE power module sound the same. You really have to hear these amps for yourselves to see if you like them or not.


Another thing is that some digital amps seem to have problems driving low impedance speakers (speakers that dip down to 4 or 2 ohms). And some people find the treble produced by these digital amps a bit bright. Again, you have to hear them for yourselves to see if they are for you.

Sounds like this may be the newest amp technology? The amps are putting out some high power numbers (according to the webiste), but running cool. The three channel jobby looks pretty appealing.

 

[mike c]

it's not new technology. my rotel rmb1077 uses the 250ASP and other 250 modules ... the RB1092 and 1091 uses the 1000ASP which d-sonic also uses. i'm dreaming about getting a 3 or 5 channel amp with 500w modules

 

[croseiv]

Too pricey for me, so I didn't look into it much.

Yeah the price really jumped out at me. I think I can handle a bit of inefficiency for the price difference. Especially if it may not sound as good as AB amps.

 

[AdrianMills]

These are relatively inexpensive compared to other IcePower based amps out there; They aren't that nice looking though.

The Danish Acoustic Reality eAR amps have recently been reduced to half price http://www.arhifi.com/shop/ and are similarly priced to the d-sonic amps but are much better looking. I was tempted to get a couple of these myself.

 

[AdrianMills]

Yeah the price really jumped out at me. I think I can handle a bit of inefficiency for the price difference. Especially if it may not sound as good as AB amps.

I would be very surprised if anyone could tell any Icepower amp from a class A/B. My BelCanto ref1000 sounds identical to my Denon receiver as far as I can tell and no one has yet shown me details of a valid DBT where two amps have been differentiated.

And yes, Icepower is really efficient. Mine has been running all day and is barely warm to the touch. Conversely, my receiver is hot.

 

[mazersteven]

Good to read (No thanks to Furry) that these are legitimate. I'll have to do a little more research.

 

[bandphan]

warpdrv has ordered from d-sonic.net - and i trust his word.

and i think they do use the b&o modules.

if i could just afford one, i'd have ordered it already.

same amp modules used in martin logan purity line. Supposed to be the real deal

 

[furrycute]

You are welcome.

Good to read (No thanks to Furry) that these are legitimate. I'll have to do a little more research.

 

[mike c]

These are relatively inexpensive compared to other IcePower based amps out there; They aren't that nice looking though.

The Danish Acoustic Reality eAR amps have recently been reduced to half price http://www.arhifi.com/shop/ and are similarly priced to the d-sonic amps but are much better looking. I was tempted to get a couple of these myself.

monoblock to monoblock the arhifi is 50% more expensive

975USD vs. 8000+DKK

and i like the d-sonic 3 channel amps and up because they have 12v triggers

 

[Warpdrv]

crosiev, I am running a D-Sonic 2000-5, powering my Paradigm Sig S4's, C3 & ADP-590's, JL Fathom F112.

Specs
3 X 525W / 8Ω 3 front channels
2 X 250W / 8Ω 2 rear channels
18”W x 7”H x 13”D
Weight: 45.2 lbs
Price: $2590

Those power ratings double at 4ohms...
I am extremely happy with this amp, extremely !!!

Although they are not the most beautiful looking amps, the build quality is amazing, yet simple and understated clean lines, which reminds me of some old Heath Kit type DIY buildable products, which I always had some affinity towards. Extremely heavy duty construction and top notch speaker connections as well as balanced inputs or RCA. I knew I wouldn't need to win any awards for the best looking stuff, that is hidden in my basement.

This is no white van product, and contains the highest quality 1000ASP B&O modules, stated to have the best SQ of all the prior modules. I can attest to their credentials. Jeff Rolands stuff sells for over $4K for dual monoblocks of the same exact 1000ASP modules... I think these are a far better deal, for the same thing.

The D-Sonic really pulled this system all together for me, the impact, the clarity, low noise floor has left me wanting for nothing more... Ordering from Dennis was seamless and communication was great. Let me also add that this amp is probably way more then overkill for anyone, but it was a choice between that or the Parasound Halo A51. IMO either would have been a fine choice and I decided to try something new, and I don't regret my decision one bit, except for the drain on my wallet...

Here are some pics of my setup, now that I have my furniture and I finished painting, just need some more decorations, but I think it has come together quite nicely. The equipment is all in the basement just below the room, with communication and coordination handled by my Pronto TSU9600 over WiFi.

I hope this helps...

 

[mike c]

warp, how do you control volume and change music? very nice setup btw ... very very neat too with all the equipment hidden.

at first look, i thought your JL sub was on fire

 

[croseiv]

Thanks Warpdrv! Nice stuff man. Don't think I'll be getting one any time soon as I have other things on my list. But it seems like a very good amp.