I really need to get the word out, I'm a TROLL

[AVDUDE]

Hi, I just want to say that I love audioholics and the website especially its reviews , Hoever, I really feel I need to write this.

I did not read The Audioholics Review of the speakers I'm complaining about​

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Because I hate audioholics, I came up with a false story to try to make them look bad. Instead of manning up a realizing that this tactic, that I've tried multiple times will never work, I'm going to do it again. Of course, I'll get banned which will give Tom a little satisfaction, but I'll keep trying because I've got very little to live for in my empty, pathetic little life.

So what does audiohliucs have to say- ITS CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM THAT makes this site better,

Of course, I have none. If I spent half the time I spend harassing Audioholics on improving my personality, body, and income, I'd probably be too busy chasing off the ladies to care what Audioholics does.

Respond everyone!/

 

[Tomorrow]

A lie...a complete lie[/B]

So what does audiohliucs have to say- ITS CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM THAT makes this site better, Respond everyone!/

You're right, constructive criticism can be beneficial. You should try it next time.

 

[Geno]

I'm ashamed of myself for saying this, but isn't it sad when cousins marry?

 

[davo]

This is why we are critical of people who keep asking "what should I buy?" without really checking things out for themselves. Did you even try it out and have a good look at it before you took it home, or was the first time you saw it when you got home? As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted.

 

[AVDUDE]

Your questions inline

First of all, to clarify things- I am a Troll, a big fat Troll, the biggest Troll in the whole wide world. A stupid Troll, if there ever was a Troll, I'm a Troll to all the boys and girls.

Second of all, I'm banned.

 

[davo]

Fair call, you were able to get your money back. But if they were not up to par in the first place, why did you take them? I can understand your been frustrated at what you feel to be a crappy product per price receiving a good (really good) review, so maybe A/h can add something to this?

At the end of the day, you survived a bad experience and got your money back.

 

[highfihoney]

What are you trying to get the word out on?

Reviews are one persons opinion & nothing more, you should be happy that you've learned a valueable lesson which is that there is no substitute for personal experience with a peice of gear in your own home.

Ive read the reviews of most the gear ive ever used & not once did the impressions of the reviewer correspond with my thoughts about the gear once i heard it in my home.

When it comes to audio opinions mean squat,for instance ive owned 2 of the best speaker systems that b&w has to offer & listened to a whole bunch of their speaker systems in friends homes & dealerships & ive never heard any b&w speaker system that i really liked while most of the speaker buying population loves everything made from them & some consider their products to be a reference point to what a great speaker should sound like,just more opinions.

My advice to you would be to keep buying gear that offers a full refund or gear that you can resell & not loose cash & never buy anything based on any review.

 

[shokhead]

Hi, I just want to say that I love audioholics and the website especially its reviews , Hoever, I really feel I need to write this.

I did not read The Audioholics Review of the speakers I'm complaining about​

​

Because I hate audioholics, I came up with a false story to try to make them look bad. Instead of manning up a realizing that this tactic, that I've tried multiple times will never work, I'm going to do it again. Of course, I'll get banned which will give Tom a little satisfaction, but I'll keep trying because I've got very little to live for in my empty, pathetic little life.

So what does audiohliucs have to say- ITS CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM THAT makes this site better,

Of course, I have none. If I spent half the time I spent harassing Audioholics on improving my personality, body, and income, I'd probably be too busy chasing off the ladies to care what Audioholics does.

Respond everyone!/

Sounds like you used this site as the end all and went only on what it said. Maybe its only me but i get all info from all places before i buy.

 

[stratman]

Use reviews and opinions as a reference only, everyone hears and sees "differently, " you have to research till your eyes bleed. The best thing to do is to audition equipment you're going to purchase and make sure you can return it. It'll be a perfect day when all your equipment matches all your expectations (impossible) so its up to you to(research)and decide for yourself.

 

[JAD2]

Its kinda of funny the posts made.
You say you should test out stuff before purchase, which is true.
But on the other hand when you try to discredit a piece of equipment on these types sites, you get hammered for doing so by people whom stated to test out stuff.

Opinions do suck because there is no 100% agreeable basis for such.

I too, have purchased items based on what these sites say, did all the research also which pointed it out to be as good as posted, only to find out its a piece of junk.


I do truely believe the Audio/Video hard corers are easily swayed hence the holics or phile endings placed upon Audio/Video.

 

[Nick250]

The core issue is about expectations. That's where things get dicey IMO. The expectation that an Audioholics review might well be flawed. I wish I knew a site that only had unflawed reviews, but I don't think it exists.

To me, shokhead's view makes a lot of sense: Sounds like you used this site as the end all and went only on what it said. Maybe its only me but i get all info from all places before i buy

Nick

 

[bandit]

I'm amazed that Audioholics is being blamed for your unhappiness regarding your purchase. Most people would "kick the tires" a bit more thoroughly I think. Perhaps the review wasn't the best - or perhaps its on the mark. Bottom line is that it is YOUR money and YOU are responsible for it. Audioholics does a commendable job of trying to get as much information out as they can on the products that are reviewed - but - no one - no institution - is perfect !!

Bandit

 

[Matt34]

Its kinda of funny the posts made.
You say you should test out stuff before purchase, which is true.
But on the other hand when you try to discredit a piece of equipment on these types sites, you get hammered for doing so by people whom stated to test out stuff.

Opinions do suck because there is no 100% agreeable basis for such.

I too, have purchased items based on what these sites say, did all the research also which pointed it out to be as good as posted, only to find out its a piece of junk.
What exactly?


I do truely believe the Audio/Video hard corers are easily swayed hence the holics or phile endings placed upon Audio/Video.

Well that's your opinion and taking a quote from you, "Opinions do suck."

Nobody was hammering the guy, just the fact that he did no other research on the product before buying it.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Let me first start off with saying that you are the first person who did not like the A5's who has heard them. I have had several emails from very happy customers. Second, I never said they were bass monsters, they are a 5 1/4 inch two ways, what did you expect? I did say the bass was very good for their size and other speakers in their class. Bass response is very,very room dependent and in my room which has been treated they were impressive for their size. If you like I can take the pair I still have and measure the bass response in my room with my RTA. I think you would be very surprised at what the results would be. I can only speculate why your bass response was not good, could be your room, drivers out of phase, placement, source material, who knows.

Third, they are a bargain for what they are. A high-quality set of powered monitors. Compared to what is out there, they are a bargain for the quality level that they are built to.

I stand by everything I wrote in my review, I also seem to remember saying that they were NOT portable and that was listed as a con. I also do not recall writing anything about using a sub with them. Not sure where you saw that. I am sorry you did not like them, and I am glad you got your money back. I am also glad they stood by their product and refunded you.

 

[Sleestack]

As a consumer of high end audio products and as someone who has tried all sorts of PC speakers, I feel that the Audioengine speakers do indeed represent a great bargain. If you are looking for monitors and complete neutrality, look at monitors made for that purpose. If you are looking for great powered speakers for a PC or iPod setup, I personally don't think there is anything that competes in the Audioengine price range. They are well made and if placed properely, produce a great amount of bass for speakers that size. I have recommended them to several people even though I do not use a pair myself. I might not feel that they deserve a 5 rating, but given their price they certainly deserve to be highlighted as a great audio value that offers much more than one normally expects at that price range.

Since when is equalization a bad thing when it makes things sound better? Also, I'm not quite sure why anyone would think they are portable. A quick look at their dimensions should have made it clear that these aren't speakers you stuff in a bag.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

OK, he got my curiosity up so I did some real quick measurements. Audioengine rates them at 60-22 +/- 1.5. I measured about 6 or 7db's down or so at 50hz in my room. Not bad and I would also say their rating is right on. Also, I measured with some Steely Dan playing a 93 db spl with peaks of 98 db's before the speakers were strained. That was 13 feet back in a 14x26 ft room. Not bad for a self powered 5 1/4 in two ways that retails for $349.00 that include kevlar woofers, silk dome tweeters, and SOLID MDF cabinets with an awesome finish.

I still stand by what I wrote.

 

[Kai]

Audio gear is so personal reviews should be used only as a reference. Even individual reviews should only be used as reference.

Additionally, inexpensive gear means inexpensive quality in general. Perhaps in its' price range versus similar gear it warranted a high rating.

Overall you always get what you pay for and seldom get Mercedes Benz quality for the cost of a Hugo.

I also suggest you also use better grammar and certainly "spell check" if you do not know how to spell words correctly. I generally never bother to finish reading anything so badly mispelled.

Additionally I am typing this with two crushed fingers from a work related accident only three days ago but have the respect for readers to use correct spelling and grammar.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Let me also add this. These are an excellent sounding pair of bookshelf speakers as good as anything I have heard in the sub $400 range. I also do know a little bit about speaker design, Just a tad mind you

 

[Tom Andry]

Don't you gentlemen recognize a troll when you see one? This person has never heard the Audioengine speakers, nor the Axioms, nor RBH. He doesn't like Audioholics most likely because he was banned for breaking the rules. I appreciate Jeff’s extra time and effort to look into this supposed issue and most the rest of you defending us. The internet is full of trolls, please, try not to feed them. Feel sad for them because they sit at home, in the dark, in their underwear with nothing better to do than find new and interesting ways onto our site to try to discredit us with baseless accusations and false complaints.

AVDUDE has probably been banned 50 times for starting threads like this under different monikers. In a moment, I’m going to go back and edit all his posts (and ban him) not because I believe in censorship (I don’t) or because I receive huge sums of money from Audioengine (I wish), but because it is neither fair to Audioengine nor ourselves to have this post pop up on a Google search.

Believe me, I have better things to be doing on a Saturday afternoon then dealing with this as my wife is reminding me as I type. So if I come off as curt or angry, it is because I am. I’d much rather be spending time with my family or sleeping or *gasp* actually doing the reviews and editorials that makes money for this company. Instead, I have to deal with this troll for the umpteenth time.

Edit - And I'm only two posts from my 666th post. How cool would that have been if this had been the one? Then I could say, "The Devil made me do it." Now, I only have myself to blame.

 

[Kai]

LOL purely and simply pathetic.