I need some answers please.

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jamie2112

Banned
My wife has started her own small house cleaning company. I am trying to figure out what she should charge people for Bi- weekly cleaning. Should she pro rate the job or go hourly? I am thinking pro rate myself but any input would be great. "Just Like Mom" cleaning is going to be the name unless anyone here has a good idea. Thanks all 1 more question , what would you pay to have your house cleaned twice a month? $150- 200, $200-300 just wanted to see what the general thinking on this is?







Jamie
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Hey, good for her! My thoughts:

1. My opinion is that the charge should be per job, not by the hour. That'll probably be tough to figure out initially because she won't know how long it's going to take to clean a particular house. I wouldn't want to give somebody an open-ended job like that - especially because house cleaning is often done when the owner is gone, and they'll have no way of knowing how much time was actually spent cleaning. That's not a cut against your wife at all.

2. Around here, I think that there's normally a larger fee for the initial cleaning.

3. How much someone would pay surely depends on the size of their house and how much/what kind of stuff they have. I wouldn't pay more than $100 to have my house cleaned twice, but that might not be a good gauge.

Adam
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
It's a bit more complicated then that, I'm afraid.
I'd call a few other cleaning services to see what the going rate is.
One thing I do know, there is no set rate, they will want to come out and see the place first.
And it depends on the square footage, and how much will be involved, windows or not, and where you are in the country. Will she be cleaning in a wealthy area?
If the place looks like a bomb hit it, versus an older couple that are very neat and need only light dusting, for example.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
We have a friend that cleans houses. (not our house)
My wife just informed me, she goes on a case by case bases.
 
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jamie2112

Banned
Yes, she will be cleaning in a wealthy area. Thanks Rick.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
If she plans on wearing one of those maid outfits, I'd have her charge extra.:D
I couldn't resist.
 
J

jamie2112

Banned
Actually its a topless cleaning service.....Just like mom ........:eek::D:D:D
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
My wife and I have had a cleaning crew come in the past couple of months to clean our house since she can't vaccum and move heavy furniture anymore. We paid $75 bi-monthly for them to do an entire house cleaning every Sunday.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Jamie, I pay my domestic help $20 per hour. She lives on a lake wide of Hackensack MN. It is about 23 miles from here, so her round trip is 46 miles. I pay her $10 per round trip.

We have a 4,500 sq.ft. home.

It usually takes her two and a half hours. She comes every two weeks. So it sets us back $120 per month. If the grandchildren have run riot a little more.

One word of caution. Your wife will run into more individuals than she thinks who have the DSM diagnosis of cluttering. Yes, there is a diagnostic inventory and a cluttering scale.

These people will be bad news and she needs to run away from them or have a route of referral for professional help.

My youngest daughter runs an organizing service in the Twin Cities, Seriously Organized.

She uses all her social work skills to deal with these individuals. When she makes a diagnosis of cluttering disorder, she insists on professional counseling as part of the contract. She also has a home cleaning business.
The home cleaning business is part of the ongoing follow up and therapy of the clutters.

If you wife does not have a plan to deal with this disorder, which is more common than you think and getting commoner, you wife will have some unpleasant and frustrating interactions. This disorder transcends the whole social spectrum.

The other issue is that your wife needs insurance. I know she is honest, but she will unfortunately run into situations, where she is accused of stealing items. Some of these accusations will be the result of early dementia, that even families may not have recognized. However they still have to be defended or settled.

The other issue is taxes. If you wife gets paid more than $50 per month, then the employer has to make arrangements for tax withholding, unless your wife largely uses her own equipment and supplies, then she is regarded as an independent contractor. Then your wife has to file quarterly tax returns.

Unfortunately running a small business, even as simple as a cleaning service, has more ramifications than you might imagine
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Jamie, I would perhaps set some "basic area" prices. More specifically, what specifically a set fee would cover. Anything over and above would, of course, cost more. For example, most people will want their kitchens and bathrooms cleaned, but they may also decide that other things need to be done which would not be part of routine cleaning. This may be something like wipe all of the walls down OR pull all the curtains down to wash. You know, sorta like spring cleaning.
I used to complain that my hair stylist was charging me too much to cut my hair. The reason-I don't have much. ;);) But, my hair stylist explained to me that her fee includes the amount of time it took her as well as the skill involved in doing so. When I looked at it from her point of view, I never complained again. Other than, I wished I had more hair......LOL!!!! :p:p Good luck to both you and the wife . I am sure she will be quite successful.

Cheers,

Phil
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
kinda like arctic cold shower right after a lap dance.
I was thinking that it was more like getting a lap dance...then finding out it was a dude.

[Not that there's anything wrong with that.]
[Sorry Rickster...]
 
aberkowitz

aberkowitz

Audioholic Field Marshall
Having grown up in an affluent area myself, I remember my parents paying about $180 a week for a cleaning lady that came 3 days a week. This was for being around 4-6 hours on a given day... cleaning the house and doing some laundry. The houses were on the larger side and included 4 bathrooms. That quote is about 8-10 years old and was valid for the NYC metro area. In NYC my wife and I actually found a group of women that have started their own similar business (in addition to day jobs no less!) and we pay about $100 once a month for somebody to come clean our 850 square foot apartment. It takes about 3.5 hours.

Looking at this purely from a business school "case" perspective, my advice to your wife would be to find the market price for the area and use that, while allowing for adjustments for things like doing laundry, oversize houses (greater than XX square feet), and spring cleaning. If you try to itemize you're going to end up either undercharging or pricing yourself out of the market b/c it's hard to come up with a reasonable formula for housecleaning w/o until you have some data to go by. (Many of the maid services in NYC are able to itemize because they're rarely dealing with more than 1 or 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, and a kitchen.) When you're talking about housecleaning quality of work and trustworthiness are generally much more important than price. If your wife can establish a rapport with clients to where they're willing to let her and her colleagues be alone in their house, that's worth much more business than an extra $5 an hour.

My advice would be for her not to obsess about price to start. Call around to other services and get price quotes, and then just pick one somewhere in the middle. I would bet anyway that the distribution among similar services (e.g. not maid factories) should be very small if there's already an established market... and since we're talking about an affluent area then there's definitely an established market! :)
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

Banned
Waiting for Mazersteven's image.

this had me going ... :cool:



then this freaked me out. :eek:



kinda like arctic cold shower right after a lap dance.
Mazersteven's always comes up with the best visuals. I can just imagine him finding and old sagging lady and saying "visualize topless".

Everyone in my neighborhood uses lawn services and cleaning services, except those few that want to buy HT equipment instead :rolleyes:
 
aberkowitz

aberkowitz

Audioholic Field Marshall
Mazersteven's always comes up with the best visuals. I can just imagine him finding and old sagging lady and saying "visualize topless".
QUOTE]

Or how about just the screenshot from "There's Something About Mary"?
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
My wife has started her own small house cleaning company. I am trying to figure out what she should charge people for Bi- weekly cleaning. Should she pro rate the job or go hourly? I am thinking pro rate myself but any input would be great. "Just Like Mom" cleaning is going to be the name unless anyone here has a good idea. Thanks all 1 more question , what would you pay to have your house cleaned twice a month? $150- 200, $200-300 just wanted to see what the general thinking on this is?
Jamie, it looks like you're getting excellent advice here. The only way I could help here I guess is to share my consumer's point of view. Well, first of all, all of us here have some nice coveted AV gear! "Off limits!".

I've never hired someone to clean my house for me. Why? Because I just wouldn't trust them to clean as well as I would hope. If I do the cleaning, I know exactly how clean it is, and well its money.

If I DID hire someone, I would only give them specific duties. Hence, I would want to pay hourly. I would probably give them bathrooms and kitchen. And that might actually be it.

Not a very helpful post it seems. I can do better than this... :rolleyes:

The point below is very important, IMO.

If your wife can establish a rapport with clients to where they're willing to let her and her colleagues be alone in their house, that's worth much more business than an extra $5 an hour.
OTOH, my parents have used cleaning services for as long as I can remember. They actually just recently changed it as they felt that their long time maid had become complacent. Stuff just wasn't getting cleaned as it should.

But, she held on to the job for a long time because they trusted her. Many, many years, I don't remember how long. She was left alone all the time.

So, trust + good job = long time client. Then again, my parents are the reasonable type, and I'm sure there must be some impossible customers out there... :eek: I wish your wife good luck!
 

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