I Had FIOS TV Installed Yesterday

sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
I've had FIOS (20/5 plan) for my ISP for about a year and finally decided to take the plunge and move from Direct TV HDTV service to FIOS TV.

I chose the Ultimate HD package which includes 35/35 internet speeds, all of their basic cable offering, and Showtime and Epix bundled, plus 3 free months of HBO and Cinemax. I've chosen to go without a landline phone though I may add an Ooma box at some point. Basically I've saved so much by giving up my landline that it pays for upgrading my cell phone to unlimited minutes.

The install was clean and the entire installation process took about 5 hours. The tech even fixed a cable routing mess left by the guy that originally ran the fiber into the house and I plan to call his boss on Monday and give kudos. My only real complaint about the install is that their configuration program left bloatware on my PC. Coincidentally my PC crashed hard and I spend last night reinstalling the OS. I have no clue if it was related and I'm not all that bothered because it was time for a clean install anyway. One other thing to note: Verizon claims to have stopped the practice of cutting the copper lines but I saw mine cut. That rules out ever going back to DSL or copper voice. The plus side to cut copper is that I can plug an Ooma box into phone jack and have it handle all of my phones without it interfering with Ma Bell.

The first thing that caught my eye was the picture quality. Verizon claims that they do not use any signal compression and I believe them. I have a top of the line 52" Samsung LCD in my family room and FIOS TV's HD picture quality flat blows DTV's HD picture away. The audio side also seems to have a bit more meat to it but I haven't spent enough time with it yet to say much more than that.

I haven't done an HD channel count yet but it looks like they share the same basic cable HD channels but when you get into the premium channels FIOS pulls away like Ferrari pulling away from a stock VW Bug. It seems like every HBO, Showtime, and Stars channel is available in HD instead of just one or two of each.

On the downside the box's user interface is way too busy for my taste. Where direct TV's menus are simple and clean the FIOS menus are super busy and mildly confusing. Where direct TV allows you to set the guide button to default to your favorite channels, FIOS' defaults to show all channels and even the "favorites" button has a mind of its own. My Harmony One and Harmony 880 have no trouble controlling both boxes.

Extras: The FIOS DVR has very limited storage (20hrs of HD) but is accessible from other TVs. Verizon makes up for the storage limitation by storing many popular shows and channels at their end and allowing you to play them back up to 2 weeks later. Basically they have free on-demand programing of many the stations you subscribe to (basic or premium) and pay on-demand service for new releases.

My rating of the TV service is far is 4.8 out of 5 stars with the .2 deducted for the busy user interface and limited DVR capacity. Hopefully it won't take me long to adjust to the interface in which case I might bump that rating up a bit. Oh and did I mention 35/35mb internet surfing speeds. That part gets 5 out of 5 stars. :D
 
njedpx3

njedpx3

Audioholic General
nice review - I threw you a bone ;)

Peace, Good Sound and Good Video,

Forest Man
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
Congrats, I wish I could FIOS in my area, but speaking of Verizon - I just got the Droid for $25 Amazon (with 2 year contract) - I switched from 1st gen iPhone - the main reason - At&t wireless VOICE service at my home/commute/work - sux.
Sorry for off-topic :eek:
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
Congrats, I wish I could FIOS in my area, but speaking of Verizon - I just got the Droid for $25 Amazon (with 2 year contract) - I switched from 1st gen iPhone - the main reason - At&t wireless VOICE service at my home/commute/work - sux.
Sorry for off-topic :eek:
I drooled all over the Droid but decided to wait for the Zune Phone or whatever they call it. My Storm will do for now.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Nice.
A few questions, if you don't mind. Monthly charge after any offers.
Did they have to run the fiber to each TV?
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
Nice.
A few questions, if you don't mind. Monthly charge after any offers.
Did they have to run the fiber to each TV?
In my area the Ultimate Bundle is $144/mo including 35/35 internet access and all of the TV programing I mentioned earlier. That's with a 2 year commitment. It's $30/month more for unlimited local and long distance telephone. Prices vary by area and are plus taxes and fees.

BTW movie sound is pretty good. Much better than DTV. Of course the music channels aren't any better. The just pass on the same stuff that DTV provides.
 
STRONGBADF1

STRONGBADF1

Audioholic Spartan
Nice.
A few questions, if you don't mind. Monthly charge after any offers.
Did they have to run the fiber to each TV?
Hey there mtry,

No, they run the fiber into the house and into a control/distribution box. After that they conetct to your TV's with coax just like the cable company used.
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
Hey there mtry,

No, they run the fiber into the house and into a control/distribution box. After that they conetct to your TV's with coax just like the cable company used.
Oops I forgot to answer that. Strong is correct. They run the fiber to a box in my garage and send Cat5e into my office and then either plug the coax into the house's center cable TV distribution box or run coax to the rooms.

I run my own 802.11N router behind theirs because I like my privacy and as an old professional paranoid (network engineer) I never trust anybody with even limited access to my network.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Hey there mtry,

No, they run the fiber into the house and into a control/distribution box. After that they conetct to your TV's with coax just like the cable company used.
Thanks:D
How big is that box and do they need 120v power to it?
I have a small telephone box on the side of the house flush with the stucco. Back in 1989/90 when I was designing the house, I wasn't thinking about fiber :( in my future:(
Maybe, one day, in my lifetime, that service might reach me.:rolleyes:
 
STRONGBADF1

STRONGBADF1

Audioholic Spartan
Thanks:D
How big is that box and do they need 120v power to it?
I have a small telephone box on the side of the house flush with the stucco. Back in 1989/90 when I was designing the house, I wasn't thinking about fiber :( in my future:(
Maybe, one day, in my lifetime, that service might reach me.:rolleyes:
The box mount in side the house. I made some quick rounded measurements of the box assembly they installed and it is 11" x 20" x 4". You'll need a 110v receptacle available.

Hey... The first place I lived in had a 60amp service.....nothing lasts forever!:)
 
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chadburger

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The Fios HBO and other premium channel HD content is a fraud, its only a stretched digital image distorted at edges just like HGTV, TNT non sporting events and about every other "HD" channel save for the few truely HD channels.............the Emperor has no clothes.
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
The Fios HBO and other premium channel HD content is a fraud, its only a stretched digital image distorted at edges just like HGTV, TNT non sporting events and about every other "HD" channel save for the few truely HD channels.............the Emperor has no clothes.
Not doubting you but could you include some supporting links. I'm sure we'd all love to read up on it.
 
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chadburger

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Not doubting you but could you include some supporting links. I'm sure we'd all love to read up on it.
You dont need a link, look with your eyes........its called "panaramic stretch: many times, Its stretched where the 4.3 letterbox bars would go and it distorts the image at the sides, It is MUCH more subtle than stretching entire image but its simply not true HD.............just digital thats fitted better. These channels and do at times display HD content, even some commercials are now HD but between all the older shows and movie material that completely dominates some of these cable channels its a bit odd they tout HD. There many times isnt any at all. It will change in time but I am just pointing out that at this time a good percentage of HD isnt really anything to brag about. The sound is great though and its gonna get better so thats good news for everyone.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
The box mount in side the house. I made some quick rounded measurements of the box assembly they installed and it is 11" x 20" x 4". You'll need a 110v receptacle available.

Hey... The first place I lived in had a 60amp service.....nothing lasts forever!:)
Thanks again. But I wasn't a good visionary back then, or now.;):D
That is a big box:eek: but if it comes to this, I have room just inside wall of the phone feed. At least I would not have to rewire the house inside with fiber.That would be a nightmare.
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
You dont need a link, look with your eyes........its called "panaramic stretch: many times, Its stretched where the 4.3 letterbox bars would go and it distorts the image at the sides, It is MUCH more subtle than stretching entire image but its simply not true HD.............just digital thats fitted better. These channels and do at times display HD content, even some commercials are now HD but between all the older shows and movie material that completely dominates some of these cable channels its a bit odd they tout HD. There many times isnt any at all. It will change in time but I am just pointing out that at this time a good percentage of HD isnt really anything to brag about. The sound is great though and its gonna get better so thats good news for everyone.
Okay that's a clearer description. FIOS has a ton of 1080i HD channels but you are correct in that there is not enough HD format content to fill them with native HD content all the time. But that is hardly an "the emperor has no clothes" situation. Verizon provides the uncompressed HD channel space and it's up to the content providers (HBO, Discovery, Sci-Fi, etc.) to fill it with HD content. That's getting better and will just keep getting better. But with their ability to forgo any compression both HD and SD picture and HD sound seem much better.
 

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