How about some Good News!

[captain_tinker]

Folks,
I just found this wonderful article of a man in Poland who has just come out of a coma after 19 years!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,277475,00.html

"Despite doctors' advice that he would not live, his wife never gave up hope and took care of him at home.

"He was a living corpse," she said on TVN24.

"Now he can sit in his wheelchair and we have breakfast and coffee together," she said.

"I would fly into a rage every time someone would say that people like him should be euthanized, so they don't suffer," she told local daily Gazeta Dzialdowska. "I believed Janek would recover," she said, using an affectionate version of his name.

"This is my great reward for all the care, faith and love," she told the AP, weeping.

"He remembers everything that was going on around him," she said. "He talks about it and remembers the wedding of our children. He had fever around the time of the weddings, so he knew something big was taking place."



Reminds me of Poor Terri Schaivo. How unfortunate, and selfish to starve the poor woman to death simply for the convenience of her caretakers... Just because not everyone comes out of a coma like that does not mean that they cannot ever come out of it. There is always that possibility, this and many other stories like it prove that, and it is wonderful and beautiful to behold!

It proves to me that life is not without very dark and terrible moments, pain and suffering, and sadness. But that despite that, there is always hope.

-capT

 

[Seth=L]

That is really good news, I can't imagine what they are feeling now.

If had to chose between coma or prison for 19 years, I would chose coma. Of course I realize there is no way to know when/if someone will awaken from coma.

My point is, they talk about euthanizia for people in comas, like their suffering is worse than that of someone with a life sentence to prison. We should just euthanize prison inmates with life terms then, if we are going to do it to people in comas.

 

[Seth=L]

Wait until they hand him the bill for 19 years in a hospital.

He'll go right back into a coma!

I would hope that after such an experiance that money would be the last of their concerns.

 

[markw]

You're too fast for me. Seth.

I would hope that after such an experiance that money would be the last of their concerns.

I deleted the post when I realized he was at home all that time, not in a hospital.

 

[majorloser]

Reminds me of Poor Terri Schaivo. How unfortunate, and selfish to starve the poor woman to death simply for the convenience of her caretakers... Just because not everyone comes out of a coma like that does not mean that they cannot ever come out of it. There is always that possibility, this and many other stories like it prove that, and it is wonderful and beautiful to behold!

It proves to me that life is not without very dark and terrible moments, pain and suffering, and sadness. But that despite that, there is always hope.

-capT

Terri Schiavo was brain dead. There was MASSIVE loss of brain tissue. Only cerebral fluid. Her bodily functions were kept running by machine. She had told her husband LONG before this happened not to keep her on life support. She wanted to die of natural causes, which was the final outcome.

This was a freakin' circus here in Florida. The state and Fed governments should be ashamed for what they put all of the family through.

The left image is a normal brain. The right was Terri Schiavo's in 2002. She didn't die till 2005. Note the dark black areas is cerebral fluid, not active living brain matter. Brain tissue does not grow back.

 

[majorloser]

I deleted the post when I realized he was at home all that time, not in a hospital.

Yeah, but I'm sure he has 19 years of back taxes to pay

 

[avaserfi]

Terri Schiavo was brain dead. There was MASSIVE loss of brain tissue. Only cerebral fluid. Her bodily functions were kept running by machine. She had told her husband LONG before this happened not to keep her on life support. She wanted to die of natural causes, which was the final outcome.

This was a freakin' circus here in Florida. The state and Fed governments should be ashamed for what they put all of the family through.

The left image is a normal brain. The right was Terri Schiavo's in 2002. She didn't die till 2005. Note the dark black areas is cerebral fluid, not active living brain matter. Brain tissue does not grow back.

I think that is the most important statement that could be made, man kept her alive nothing else. Our technology is what made her live for three extra years otherwise natural life course for the situation would have been played out and she would have passed.

It is always good to hear about people coming out of comas after long periods of time especially with full cognition though .

 

[Seth=L]

I deleted the post when I realized he was at home all that time, not in a hospital.

Regardless, if you come out of a 19 year coma and start worrying about money then maybe they should consider euthanizia.

 

[highfihoney]

That is really good news, I can't imagine what they are feeling now.

If had to chose between coma or prison for 19 years, I would chose coma. Of course I realize there is no way to know when/if someone will awaken from coma.

My point is, they talk about euthanizia for people in comas, like their suffering is worse than that of someone with a life sentence to prison. We should just euthanize prison inmates with life terms then, if we are going to do it to people in comas.

If you had a choice of doing a hard 20 yrs or being in a coma,prison would be the wise choice,atleast in the can you can better your self by going to school,in 20 years you could have four degrees Being in a coma is the worst thing i can imagine

With my s#!tty luck i'd get some freak for a care giver who kicked my a$$ daily,or even worse

 

[highfihoney]

Yeah, but I'm sure he has 19 years of back taxes to pay

So true,damm leeches at the IRS

 

[Seth=L]

If you had a choice of doing a hard 20 yrs or being in a coma,prison would be the wise choice,atleast in the can you can better your self by going to school,in 20 years you could have four degrees Being in a coma is the worst thing i can imagine

With my s#!tty luck i'd get some freak for a care giver who kicked my a$$ daily,or even worse

Pesimist.

I chose coma because if you aren't concious you don't know what is going on, you might even have some really good dreams, who knows.

In prison, depending on your age or looks, you could be in for a very unpleasant surprise, one I am pretty sure I would hate more than just about anything.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Terri Schiavo was brain dead. There was MASSIVE loss of brain tissue. Only cerebral fluid. Her bodily functions were kept running by machine. She had told her husband LONG before this happened not to keep her on life support. She wanted to die of natural causes, which was the final outcome.

This was a freakin' circus here in Florida. The state and Fed governments should be ashamed for what they put all of the family through.

The left image is a normal brain. The right was Terri Schiavo's in 2002. She didn't die till 2005. Note the dark black areas is cerebral fluid, not active living brain matter. Brain tissue does not grow back.

The only problem I have with that is this. I saw a show the other day where a little girl had half of her brain removed and suffered only minor issues that doctors said she would overcome. You read that correct, Half of her brain removed. Who is man to to say for a fact that Terri would have NEVER came out of her coma. Doctors are human and have been wrong many times.

 

[captain_tinker]

The only problem I have with that is this. I saw a show the other day where a little girl had half of her brain removed and suffered only minor issues that doctors said she would overcome. You read that correct, Half of her brain removed. Who is man to to say for a fact that Terri would have NEVER came out of her coma. Doctors are human and have been wrong many times.

Jeff,
You are right, there are many things that we do not yet know about our own physiology. Yes, we know a lot, but not all. Granted, I think Majorloser was correct when saying:

The state and Fed governments should be ashamed for what they put all of the family through.

however I think that whoever made the decision to kill her (and unfortunately I do not remember who that was) will ultimately be accountable for this decision in the next life. I do not want to sound "holier than thou" and do not want to "cast the first stone" so to speak, but I cannot condone murder of any sort, nor would I even consider asking someone to commit it for me, not even if I was the one in her shoes.

My goal in starting this thread was to simply bring up some GOOD news in the world, and was hoping that others would chime in with other examples of good news of any kind, as we hear so much of bad news all the time. It's depressing.

-capT

 

[majorloser]

The only problem I have with that is this. I saw a show the other day where a little girl had half of her brain removed and suffered only minor issues that doctors said she would overcome. You read that correct, Half of her brain removed. Who is man to to say for a fact that Terri would have NEVER came out of her coma. Doctors are human and have been wrong many times.

I'm no expert, but I would believe it with a child's brain. Though we're not technically talking about 1/2 of the brain. More likely 1/2 of the cerebral cortex, more likely not the cerebellum. A developing brain is still learning and growing to adult size. There has been studies were the two hemispheres of the are separated and the person continues on. But when the brain loses sections it can be catastrophic or fatal (stroke).

But in Terri Schiavo's case the problem was different.

"Examination of Schiavo’s nervous system revealed extensive injury. The brain itself weighed 615 g, only half the weight expected for a female of her age, height, and weight, an effect caused by the loss of a massive amount of neurons. Microscopic examination revealed extensive damage to nearly all brain regions, including the cerebral cortex, the thalami, the basal ganglia, the hippocampus, the cerebellum, and the midbrain. The neuropathologic changes in her brain were precisely of the type seen in patients who enter a PVS following cardiac arrest. Throughout the cerebral cortex, the large pyramidal neurons that comprise some 70 percent of cortical cells—critical to the functioning of the cortex—were completely lost. The pattern of damage to the cortex, with injury tending to worsen from the front of the cortex to the back, is also typical. There was marked damage to important relay circuits deep in the brain (the thalami)—another common pathologic finding in cases of PVS. The damage was, in the words of Thogmartin, "irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."

Here's the OFFICIAL coroner's report if anybody has the desire to read:
http://www.abstractappeal.com/schiavo/autopsyreport.pdf

 

[loserwife]

Ok guys...let's give this thread a rest.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yeah, but I'm sure he has 19 years of back taxes to pay

I am confident that the wife was happy to file a joint return and pay way less

 

[mtrycrafts]

Ok guys...let's give this thread a rest.

What? Quit after just a few posts on an interesting topic? You should have seen that ID trial in PA post. I think it may be the record holder.

 

[mtrycrafts]

The only problem I have with that is this. I saw a show the other day where a little girl had half of her brain removed and suffered only minor issues that doctors said she would overcome. You read that correct, Half of her brain removed. Who is man to to say for a fact that Terri would have NEVER came out of her coma. Doctors are human and have been wrong many times.

Yes, that girl had a whole half left, I would presume in good working order, that she could cross-train over time. Check the scan on Terry; like a huge drill cutting out a great chunk from both halves. And, she didn't want to exist like that; unfortunately she didn't leave written directions. A hard lesson to learn for us living, the importance of such papers.

 

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

And, she didn't want to exist like that; unfortunately she didn't leave written directions. A hard lesson to learn for us living, the importance of such papers.

And give the papers to an attorney, not your mother!

But anyway, as we saw from the "coma Cop" who awoke after a mere 7 years in a coma, his muscle system was so atrophied that his spine had started to curl back upon itself and his limbs were 'fused' at an angle. He never regained any control until his death a few weeks later. Grzebski was in a coma almost 3 times as long.....

 

[Sheep]

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't we only use half of our brain at one time? Obviously loosing half will affect mobility (one side controls the opposite side), but I'm not surprised she had a quick recovery.

SheepStar