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James Wendell

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<font color='#000000'>I inherited an unpowered subwoofer from my son. &nbsp;It is for home use. &nbsp;I have a dolby audio system with a subwoofer preamp output. &nbsp;Without spending a lot of money I would like to power the subwoofer. &nbsp;Any suggestions? &nbsp;Can I obtain an amplifer (new or used) for about $100?</font>
 
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Yamahaluver

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James Wendell : <font color='#000000'>I inherited an unpowered subwoofer from my son.  It is for home use.  I have a dolby audio system with a subwoofer preamp output.  Without spending a lot of money I would like to power the subwoofer.  Any suggestions?  Can I obtain an amplifer (new or used) for about $100?</font>
<font color='#0000FF'>Look for 3000 series bridgeable NAD in audiogon or ebay.</font>
 
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<font color='#000000'>James,

What is the sub's driver size diameter? and is it ported or sealed? &nbsp;Does it have a brand name and model number? &nbsp;Is it 4 Ohms?

What is the cubic feet of your room? &nbsp; Is it a closed in room, or does it have door openings into other parts of the house?

Depending on how loud you like to play your system, you might be able to use just about any used amp you find, even an older stereo receiver/amp that is lying around.</font>
 
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James Wendell

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<font color='#000000'>A few more details. &nbsp;The subwoofer is a dbx model db-sw15 plus which probably translates into “unknown”. &nbsp;It is a non-ported box with an interior volume of about 2.4 cubic feet. &nbsp;The diameter of the cone is 12”. &nbsp;A label on the back states that it needs 25 to 250 watts of power and has an impedance of 6.3 ohms.</font>
 
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<font color='#000000'><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A label on the back states that it needs 25 to 250 watts of power and has an impedance of 6.3 ohms. &nbsp;</td></tr></table>

As I said, you could even put a spare older stereo receiver to work here if you had one lying around.

You should be able to get a very reasonably priced amp of 250 watts or less used for that sub. &nbsp;

You might even click on this hyperlink to Parts Express for an example of a remote controlled sub amp you could try.</font>
 
Yamahaluver

Yamahaluver

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James Wendell : <font color='#000000'>A few more details.  The subwoofer is a dbx model db-sw15 plus which probably translates into ?unknown?.  It is a non-ported box with an interior volume of about 2.4 cubic feet.  The diameter of the cone is 12?.  A label on the back states that it needs 25 to 250 watts of power and has an impedance of 6.3 ohms.</font>
<font color='#0000FF'>It is a nice sub and can handle more than 250 watts, look for my original solution, that is a bridgeable NAD. If your cones are ok and your surrounds are proper then this sub can generate quite a lot of bass.

I had one of this and found it to be a good value for money.</font>
 
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James Wendell

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<font color='#000000'>I found a NAD on ebay. &nbsp;Description is as follows:&quot;NAD 3155 High Current stereo power amp. Rated for 55 watts/ch. with 3 dB Dynamic headroom. Bridgeable for 200 watts into single channel. Soft Clipping. &quot; &nbsp;Excuse my ignorance. &nbsp;How does 55 watts/ch add up to 200 watts into a single channel?</font>
 
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Yamahaluver

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James Wendell : <font color='#000000'>I found a NAD on ebay.  Description is as follows:&quot;NAD 3155 High Current stereo power amp. Rated for 55 watts/ch. with 3 dB Dynamic headroom. Bridgeable for 200 watts into single channel. Soft Clipping. &quot;  Excuse my ignorance.  How does 55 watts/ch add up to 200 watts into a single channel?</font>
<font color='#0000FF'>http://207.228.230.217/info/NAD_3155.pdf

This is a much better description of the NAD 3155. In bridged mode it delivers 150W RMS and 250W peak. THis is due to their high current design and use of heavy duty transformer so when it is bridged, the power output goes up substantialy. This would be a perfect match for your dbx sub.
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James Wendell

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<font color='#000000'>I purchased the NAD amp as suggested in this forum. &nbsp;Good advice. &nbsp;I hooked it up and bridged the amp according to the instructions with the NAD. It appears that the only way to control volume is with the preamp feed that goes into the NAD. &nbsp;The volume control on the NAD seems to have no effect. &nbsp;Did I hook it up correctly?</font>
 
Yamahaluver

Yamahaluver

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<font color='#0000FF'>If you want volume control on the NAD then I suggest attaching to the line in of the NAD instead of the pre in.</font>
 
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<font color='#000000'>The only problem with bridging an amp is that you lose the damping factor control (the amps ability to stop the woofer cone movement after the signal stops) of the amplifier itself.

I would not recommend using a bridged amp on a subwoofer, although your sealed sub is probably less of a problem than a ported sub.</font>
 
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rcpmac

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I was just about to ask myself why am I reading this 3 year old thread about powering a sub and BOOM! There it is! - a great tidbit on bridging amps and damping factors that I knew nothing about.

Lesson
- 1- Keep browsing this stuff
- 2- please folks keep posting info for the less informed, less experienced of us even though many here already know it.

Now let me contribute something. My understanding is that sub is a 15" driver with dual voice coils. Thus the optimal way to drive it would be to run both channels of the amp into the sub. Hence the dual speaker terminals... I know this thread is old, but that sub will be handed down again and googled again and...
Chris
 
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bandit

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If your handy - there are some awfully nice plate amplifiers available on the net. You'd have to either mount it in the sub box or in its own box. If you do a google search on subwoofer plate amplifiers you'll find several. I bought a 350w amp from RythmicAudio.com and couldn't be happier.... and cutting a mounting hole wasn't hard either. I wondered if it would affect the tuning of the subwoofer cabinet itself - but my ear couldn't hear a difference.


Bandit :)
 
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markw

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Several questions. late as usual.

James Wendell said:
<font color='#000000'>I inherited an unpowered subwoofer from my son. &nbsp;It is for home use. &nbsp;I have a dolby audio system with a subwoofer preamp output. &nbsp;Without spending a lot of money I would like to power the subwoofer. &nbsp;Any suggestions? &nbsp;Can I obtain an amplifer (new or used) for about $100?</font>
First off, NAD makes great power amps. Powerful, stable and built like a brick outhouse. You bought a good one.

But, it might not have been the best solution for this application.

Unless you can control the output to match it to the rest ofthe system from the receiver, you might have been better off had you picked up an amp with level controls. As you are finding out, powered subs all have the ability to "match" their gain to the rest of the system.

Also, when bridging an amp, it will "See" the speaker impedance as one half of what it is. That is to say that if tou hook it up to one side of the subwoofer, it will see that 6 ohm impedance and 3 ohms.

Now, I'm sure the temptation will be strong to run that bridged output to both channels of tha sub which, in essense, is connecting both sides of the speaker in parallel. This wil lresult in a spealer impedance of 3 ohms.

Now, connecting a three ohm speaker load to a bridged amp, which will see the load as half that, will have it working into a 1.5 ohm load. That's really pushing you're luck.

IMNSHO, the perfect solution for you would have been one of those plate amps from parts express. They have all the flexibility needed to match any speaker/enclosure to any system. Level, crossover, phase, etc...

FWIW, I have one of these subs. I bought from DAK in 1990 or so for $150. ITwas OK in it's day but, on the whole, modern subs will blow it out of the water. Check out the Dayton subwoofers at parts express before investing too much money.

(I know this is an old thread. Since it was revived, I figured I should add a little perspective.)
 
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jamacs78

Audiophyte
-i need amplified 2 subwoofer

Hi, I was reading this post, and i think that you maybe help me, excuse me for my english, i would prefer speak in spanish but well, i will try that you understand me.

I have 2 subwoofers EVID Celling Speaker, the diameter is 10" , and I will want connect to my home teather system (7.2) that is a Yamaha RX-V1065 but the amplifier can´t move the subwoofers, I was searching an amplifier that can take the subwofer out signal of my Yamaha amp and send the properly signal to the subwoofers.

I hope no spend a lot money in this.

Thanks
 

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