Home Audio System around 5k

AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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Just based on reviews this seems like a great idea. I just held back on suggesting them because I haven't heard them personally
Very true.

Even if you and I have auditioned them and think they sound great, the OP still needs to listen for himself.

That is why the 30-day in-home trial is a must.:D
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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but i would hope a person with a five thousand dollar budget could do better than a 800 dollar pair of mains.

I could build a pair of Nao Notes complete with electronics for that much.
1) True, but who says he has to spend all $5,000?:eek::D What if he could spend $2,000 and get a system that sounds and looks like it costs $5,000?:D

I'v never heard the Synchrony One. My guess is they sound better than the E55. But do you think the Synchrony Ones actually sound $4,200 BETTER than the EMP E55?:D

Law of diminishing returns?

Of course, the Synchrony One commands more respect, prestige, pride, and (arguably) aesthetics?

2) Not many of us are as talented as you are in buiding speakers my friend.:D
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

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In other words, we are only given the "best side" of a single picture, and not every single measurement?

The Paradigm S8 towers measure extremely well on both Home Theater Magazine and Soundstage (NRC anechoic chamber).

InTheIndustry listened to them with a set of dual subwoofers (if I recall correctly) and said he did not like the sound at all.

Whitey80 pretty said he was not that much impressed with the S8 either when he auditioned them.

Some people actually say they did not like the sound of the Revel Salon 2 or the KEF 207/2 speakers. Yet both these speakers measure exceptionally well.

Could it be that some people love the sound and some people don't?
Yes, some people are crazy. some even buy garbage like tubes!
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

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1) True, but who says he has to spend all $5,000?:eek::D What if he could spend $2,000 and get a system that sounds and looks like it costs $5,000?:D

I'v never heard the Synchrony One. My guess is they sound better than the E55. But do you think the Synchrony Ones actually sound $4,200 BETTER than the EMP E55?:D
dunno, i've never heard a PSB speaker. Sometimes i think i couldn't live with more revealing speakers than i already have. I was watching some old dvds of Marmalade Boy last week and the hiss in the original Japanese soundtrack was so audible it bothered me. I can only imagine it on some Revel Salons. Which reminds me, rmk switched from $12k revel studios to $3k JTR Triple 12s?

One thing I will mention is that due to my placement, I add about 1-2db of boost from 60hz to 500hz via graphic EQ. it fills in the lower midrange a tad bit for a more full sound, which i think is because i have them a good distance from the rear wall.

2) Not many of us are as talented as you are in buiding speakers my friend.:D
Talent? Clearly you havent seen my mal-x!
 
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Pyrrho

Pyrrho

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dunno, i've never heard a PSB speaker. Sometimes i think i couldn't live with more revealing speakers than i already have. I was watching some old dvds of Marmalade Boy last week and the hiss in the original Japanese soundtrack was so audible it bothered me. I can only imagine it on some Revel Salons. Which reminds me, rmk switched from $12k revel studios to $3k JTR Triple 12s?

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Presumably, if the frequency response is the same, a more "revealing" speaker will be one that simply adds less distortion to the signal. So you would not hear the hiss any more than you now do, but would hear it more clearly, just as you would hear everything else in the recording more clearly.

(You would hear more of it if the speakers boosted the relevant frequencies relative to the rest of the sound, but otherwise you would hear the same amount of it, just with varying degrees of clarity. Of course, different speakers do not tend to have precisely the same frequency response, and so some will play some portions of the sound louder than others, relative to the other frequencies. But that has nothing to do with which speaker distorts more than the other one.)

I have heard people say that more revealing speakers make bad recordings sound worse than they do on other speakers, but I don't agree with that assessment. I think what they do is make good recordings sound better, so that the difference between good and bad recordings is more pronounced.

By the way, these are what I use in my main 2 channel system:

http://www.apogeespeakers.com/stage.htm

I listen to all sorts of things on them, including old Caruso recordings. One hears the defects with crystal clarity, but the defects are there with added distortion when one listens with speakers that distort more. With bad recordings, I don't think it matters as much what speakers one has, and if I only listened to old Caruso recordings, I would not bother with speakers that are as expensive and troublesome as the ones I use. But with good recordings, they make a big difference, and this applies to recordings as old as the 1950's, with some of the jazz and classical recordings I have. But even with bad recordings, such as the very old Caruso recordings, his voice does sound more realistic with better speakers than with lesser ones, but just not enough of a difference to be worth much to me.

As for how my speakers compare with the others mentioned in this thread, I have not heard them, so I am not in a position to say much of anything about that.

As for the issue of how much of a difference is worth a particular amount of money, it is going to depend on several things, not least of which is how much money one has. If one has the wealth of Bill Gates, an extra $100k for a tiny difference in sound may be worthwhile, but if one has a normal income, it would not matter if the difference were great, as that would be too much for most people to spend.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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dunno, i've never heard a PSB speaker. Sometimes i think i couldn't live with more revealing speakers than i already have. I was watching some old dvds of Marmalade Boy last week and the hiss in the original Japanese soundtrack was so audible it bothered me. I can only imagine it on some Revel Salons. Which reminds me, rmk switched from $12k revel studios to $3k JTR Triple 12s?
Doh.:D

I totally forgot that you own the EMP E55ti.:D

Do they look as good in person as they look on those web pictures?:D

I was listening to my P362s last night, instead of the Orions, and I could not help but compare the aesthetics of the P362s (which is not much to look at) and those web pictures of the E55ti (which look quite beautiful).:D

Since you and Gene both like the sound of the E55ti, I think it's easy to recommend them, and the 30-day trial doesn't hurt either.:D
 
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SsFoam

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Thank you everyone for your replies
I am going to try to find a local dealer to check out some speakers first
My budget can be over 5k if I add on over time
I also have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) so clarity means alot for me as distortion hurts my ears.
Ant opinions on klipsch ?
I do have a klipsch 12" subwoofer
 
cpp

cpp

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Yes, some people are crazy. some even buy garbage like tubes!
I love my crazy tubes, I even like my tubes in my 65 Fender Twin Reverb amp :D.
 
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