home and car subs...the same?

[Gbiz]

Thank you for your help. Is the 12" dayton the best deal for around $500? I would have no problem assembling this kit, but is it the best bang for the buck? I see many many 12" subs that are around this price range on sale and on ebay. If there are other ones you recommend please let me know so I can search for a deal. Or should I follow Francious70's recommendationand buy an empty cabinet(no idea from where) or build my own from those componants, if so, what size? Sorry so many questions I just don't want to buy any more junk. Thanks

 

[annunaki]

The Dayton is a very good performer from what I have heard from people who have it. If it were sold in stores, it would probably sell for about $700 (my guess). If you are set on doing a complete DIY, remeber first how you are going to finish off the cabinet so it looks presentable. Especially to your wife (if you have one!).

If I were doing a DIY around $500 for two quality subs, I would do two JL Audio 13W1v2 subwoofers http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=17($159 each retail) with a 400-500 watts rms amplifier. I would do two sealed enclosures (using 3/4" MDF) Each with internal dimensions of 16"x16"x16". I would then use one of these to power them: http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHEP1500 . I would run the amplifier with a mono signal, one sub on each channel for about 350 watts rms (at 4 ohms per channel). Plenty of headroom. So it is a little over $500. At least one would have excellent sub bass performance without spending a fortune.

 

[Gbiz]

That would be a good option. I just went and got a demonstration from a b&w ASW600 and it was wonderful. Would I get close to the same results doing this? This would be better because I could get 2.

 

[annunaki]

B&W makes a solid subwoofer. Though some consider them to be pricey when compared to others of similar performance. If you like the B&W do it. You may want to audition some others as well since you are at it.

 

[Gbiz]

I was happy with the way the b&w performed. The store I went to has only high end equipment. I could not really afford the other products they carry. They told me that dayton was low end and not nearly as good as b&w. They said the important thing was when the sub is finished hitting the resistance kicks in and there is no overflow of the bump, and a clean hit. If the 10 inch dayton is actually as good I would get it. If you could tell me of any subs at a lower price that sounds that good, I will definetly buy it.

 

[annunaki]

Chances are, the salesman said the Dayton was low end because he has never heard of it. I am a saleman myself, but do not revert to that kind of rubbish tactic. The Dayton is a quality driver and set up, as is the B&W. I would be willing to bet, without hearing them both, that they actually have similar performance capabilities.

As far as that salesman is concerned, I do not know what he is talking about as far as resistance goes. It sounds to me like he was trying to say the sub is accurate with very little or no overhang. From what I have read on the Dayton, it would also be good in that department.

Honestly, if you are looking at a 10" near $500, I would do an SVS. with a 45 day money back guarantee, you can use it in your house to see if you really like it. For your room size, I would suggest two though. As with either of the other subs mentioned.

See here:
http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb10_isd.htm It is $429

If you do not mind a cylinder, this is available for $549:
http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pci_25-31.htm

Honestly, it should out do both of them (Dayton or B&W).

 

[Gbiz]

Thank you for your recommendation. I think that I'm going to go with the pb10 it will end up being about the same price and if its better than the one I heard I'd be very satisfied. Eventually I will add a second, but it is getting expensive putting together a decent HT, thank GOD I graduate in may. I went and heard a jbl and a vasodine or something in this price range, and I don't know if it was the environment, but they didn't seem to perform nearly as well. Again, thanks

 

[annunaki]

I think you will be very happy with the PB-10. It is a great performer considering it's price!

 

[Gbiz]

Thank you for all your advice. I ordered the pb 10. I know that you did say that I might need 2. I certainly cannot afford another right now. Should I keep that junk one attached as well when I recieve it? Are there any other alternatives that I can buy that will compliment it nicely, but not take away from the sound quality, perhaps something 8" or a cheaper 10"?

 

[annunaki]

Personally, I would not run a second subwoofer unless it was the exact same unit, or of very similar quality. One good sub would be better than one good sub and a cheap one in my opinion. Save for the second SVS and be done with it. Enjoy the single woofer for the time being. I think you will be surprised at it's capability.

 

[Gbiz]

I recieved my subwoofer and I couldn't be happier. I just wanted to say thanks annunaki for steering me in the right direction. This was the esssential piece of my system that was missing and it sounds wonderful now. I don't even know if I need a second.

 

[annunaki]

Gbiz, you can thank me by leaving a positive green chicklet.

Actually, I could care less if you leave me one or not. I am just glad to be of service and help.

I assume the guys at SVS were great to deal with? It seems as though you received it rather quickly as well.