High quality audio and home theater system advice.

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tOOts

Audiophyte
I am thinking of buying a system that could be used for both 5.1 home theater surround sound and high quality stereo system for my music.
What I am thinking of up to now:

Wilson Sophias as Front Speakers, Watch center channel, Watch wall mount speakers as rear speakers and the watch dog subwoofer.

Option 1: Audio research MP1 Multichannel Preamplifier, 150M Multichannel Power Amplifier. What surround sound processor should I use with this option?

Option 2: Halcro SSP100 Surround Sound Processor & Preamplifier, Halcro MC50 power amplifier.

I would appreciate any advice on this system.
 
JoeE SP9

JoeE SP9

Senior Audioholic
Surround sound processors aren't my thing but as an Owner of an ARC preamp that would be the way I would go. ARC will still service and upgrade your gear ten years from now. Halcro may be out of business then.:D
 
B

bpape

Audioholic Chief
If you're serious about 2 channel ( and it sounds like you are based on the equipment you're proposing), I'd get a good surround processor and a 2 channel preamp with a HT bypass circuit. That way, the processor is out of the loop completely when doing 2 channel.

Bryan
 
race4aliving

race4aliving

Audioholic
I'd recommend you go with seperate amps rather then one multi-channel amp.
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
In addition to the "normal" gear you're looking at, there should be other things you factor into the budget. At the pricepoint you're considering, dropping a little bit down in the processors (or perhaps even the speakers, as Wilson's aren't exactly a good value) would be a good idea. This level of a system deserves to get a world class setup from every angle, not just gear. In order to make the most of your system, these are some things you should be looking at.

  • A Dedicated Room
    This is the most important component behind your speakers. A dedicated listening/theater room will ensure that you have the best sound possible. A well constructed room should include measures for isolation (isolation from outside noise, including the HVAC system) and for acoustical treatment. The vast majority of the sound you hear (as in over 90%) is dependent on the room and speakers. Assuming you're using a high quality recording, it will be very difficult to improve the sound of your system with more expensive preamps and such. And as far as amplifiers go, the main thing to strive for is sufficient power at the impedance you need. Any quality solid state amp will have low distortion.
  • Automation
    Room automation is a feature that will serve to increase the ease of use of the system, as well as add to the "oohh and aaahhh" factor of your setup. With a properly configured automation system (or even just a high quality RF remote like a Harmony or Pronto), you can, at the push of a button, dim the lights, lower the screen, turn on the equipment, and anything else you need. If you want to spend the money on a Crestron system, you can get a few extra goodies, but it might be overkill for a single room setup.
  • High-Quality Furniture
    Any high quality system should feature comfy seats and attractive racks for your gear (if it's out in the open). Again, with your budget class, this should not be much of an issue.

If I were you, I would make damn sure that Wilsons are the right route. I would also suggest that you explore 800-series offerings from B&W. They put a lot of money into R&D with their speakers. They try very hard to create linear drivers and non-resonant cabinets. In fact, if you're a fan of music or movies recorded at Abbey Road, they just installed their new B&W 800D speakers as the main monitors in Studio 1.




Good luck with your system. You have enough money for an amazing setup. Just don't get sucked into products that are overpriced or Audio Voodoo (like insanely expensive cabling).
 
T

tOOts

Audiophyte
Thanks for your advice.

Thank you all for your advice. The system i had in mind was based on reading many reviews rather than actualy listening to it. I only Listened to a friends stereo system based on ARC amps/Pre and Rockport Antares speakers. That blew my mind. I never heard anything like it before. Since I enjoy movies too, i felt that the Wilson speakers would give me the best of both worlds.
I am using now the B&W FPM series with the PV1 Active Subwoofer with a Panasonic TH-50PX500U. I have not heard the 800D series yet as well as the Polk speakers.
The reason I looked at Halcro is the expectation that a company that makes such a great Monoblock Power Amplifier like the dm88, can only come up with a great product for home theater too. I guess from what i read, it is still behind and needs lots of refinement.
A denon receiver would make my life easier in terms of less components to buy and cheaper, but does it compare in sound quality to the ARC Amps/Pre?
A good surround processor and a 2 channel preamp with a HT bypass circuit is something i am going to look into.
The room is a dedicated room with the proper isolation and I am using the crestron system all through the house.
Thanks again everyone, your comments are opening my eyes to different options.
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
There's another user here that has a large budget for HT/music stuff. His system can be found here. I'm sure he can offer some helpful opinions regarding gear.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14929

Edit: I apologize for insulting your intelligence somewhat. Many people never think of stuff like automation or a dedicated room. Kudos for not neglecting the room or the features that make your system more 'human accessible'.
 
race4aliving

race4aliving

Audioholic
No the Denon won't be in the same league has a seperate Pre/Pro. I haven't heard the ARC pre yet but I'm moving my Denon to my bedroom system and replacing it with an Arcam AVP700 Pre/Pro, I noticed a very nice differance when I hooked up the Arcam to my system. all the ARC stuff I've seen and used has been great. I really think for what you seem to want you'd get the most benefit from a Pre/Pro and a multi amp system. take some time and listen to all your speaker choices with material you are familar with. you're spending a bunch a money, might as well take some time find what you like and have fun spending it on the stuff you want. and I agree 100% with Jaxvon and alot of other smart people here say about audio cables and speaker wire don't get suckered into spending alot of money on cable and wire myths.
 
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jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
For amplification, I think you should look into Bryston. They carry a 20-year warranty, have low distortion, and are built like tanks. A set of their big monoblocks would make for a killer amplification setup.

www.bryston.ca
 

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