Help with Denon DVD-2910

[lewisbj]

I recently purchased a Denon DVD-2910. I have it connected to an Onkyo TX-SR601 receiver. The video display is a Sony KV-32FS13. I have a number of questions regarding the compatibility of these three components.

First of all, I cannot get the video to display when I use the component video cables from the DVD to the receiver and from the receiver to the TV. Is this because the TV is not compatible with Progressive Scan? Or, is there something faulty with one of the components. However, I can get the video to display by using either the S-video or composite video. I think I eliminated the component video outputs on the receiver being the problem by trying to go directly from the DVD player into the TV. This didn’t work either.

Secondly, I have the DVD player connected to the receiver using both the 5.1 Channel outputs and the optical digital output. I want to use the 5.1 outputs for SACD playback and the optical digital output for DVD video playback. I have the S-Video cable going from the DVD player to the “VIDEO 1 IN” on the receiver and use an S-Video cable from the “VIDEO 1 OUT” on the receiver to the TV. When I have DVD selected as the device on the receiver, I only get sound out of the front, right speaker when playing back a SACD. However, when I have Video 1 selected as the input device, I get sound out of the both front speakers, the center channel and the LFE. Is this correct? Why don’t all the speakers play when DVD is selected? The 5.1 Channel inputs are part of the DVD inputs on the back of the receiver. Is the SACD playing back through the optical digital connection or the 5.1 channel connections when VIDEO1 is selected?

I would appreciate any help that any of you can offer.

 

[Leprkon]

your TV, according to the manual, does not have a composite input. the best connection you can make would be S-video.

I hope, for your sake, the Onkyo manual is easier to read than the on-line version. I had to blow it up to like 200 % to ready anything !!

you should start by moving the s-video cable from the receiver to the TV. You said you had it going from Video 1 out to the TV. It needs to go from Monitor Out to the TV.

your next step is to hook up the six cables from the DVD player to the DVD connections on the back of the reciever. make sure you match the DVD output to the receiver input (ie front left, center, sub, etc). then check the manual for your DVD player to see if there is something in the menu that you have to set to turn the SACD output on. It sounds like the receiver is working, it's just not getting all the signal somehow.

when you want to watch a movie, you need to set the receiver to Video 1 (it sounds like you were doing this part right). when you want to listen to SACD, you need to set the receiver to DVD. the instructions also say to make sure your turn on "Multichannel" using the Audio Sel on the remote or fornt of the unit (page 44 near the bottom right).

let us know if that doesn't work. good luck.

 

[lewisbj]

Leprkon, the TV does have composite input. If you look on page 45 of the manual, under inputs/outputs, you will see 1 Y,Pb,Pr. I had it hooked up through these with a much older DVD player that was not progressive scan and it worked fine. That's what leads me to believe the TV is not compatible with this DVD player.

The changing of the S-Video cable from VIDEO1 OUT to MONITOR does make sence. I'll make the change and let you know how I make out.

 

[flyv65]

IIRC, there are a couple of things you need to check to get your DVD video output to run through component connections. First, (and theoretically easiest) make sure you've set the 2910 to send a component signal in the setup menu for the Denon. I'm not familiar w/ your Onkyo model, but I'd imagine that it should at least pass a component signal straight through to the TV, if not "upconvert" your composite and s-video feeds.


The audio gets a little trickier: I'm running 5.1 analog for SACD and DVD-A and a digital coax for my DVD-V stuff (just like you). I have to set my receiver to analog in for the 5 channel music as well as selecting the appropriate mode on the source. For movies, I punch digital in on the reccy and toggle to multi channel on the player. Most of my movies only send a signal to the front three channels during the "Menu" phase; but send the full 5.1 once the movie starts, by the way. I seem to recall I had to select something in the 2910 audio setup menu to get the analog stuff enabled, but right now I can't remember what it was. I'll check tonight when I get home and let you know how I've got the menus listed, eh?

Bryan...but I betcha it's got more to do with what you selected in the receiver than the player...

 

[MDS]

Leprkon nailed it. The receiver will not output a video signal on video1 out if the input signal is also coming in to video1 - you use the monitor out to go the tv. You would only use the video1 out to connect a recording device, like a VCR - then it would output any video signals coming from video2 or video3.

For the multi-channel inputs, you also have to do what Leprkon said: select DVD and then use Audio Sel to change to multi-channel. That is an annoyance that they fixed in the x02 model numbers.
(Now multi-channel has its own input selector).

 

[Leprkon]

Leprkon, the TV does have composite input. If you look on page 45 of the manual, under inputs/outputs, you will see 1 Y,Pb,Pr.

my bad.. there was nothing in the diagrams on the first 20 pages showing composite. I guess they crammed too many models into one book.

 

[flyv65]

Well I'm home and checked the 2910 setup menu. Under the Audio Setup tab you should have the audio channel set to "multi-channel", the digital output set to "normal", and the LPCM and source direct set to "on". On the Other Setup tab, set player mode to "audio". Now all you've got to do is toggle the SACD setup button on the front to pick "multi-channel", "stereo", and "CD". This is how mine is programmed and it works like a charm w/ my 3805.

Bryan...hope this helps...

 

[lewisbj]

Well, I switched the S-video cable from the "Video 1 Out" to "Monitor Out" and it solved the problem of the sound only coming through the front right speaker when DVD is selected on the receiver.

Flyv65, I checked my Audio Setup this morning and have the following:

Audio Channel - Multi
Digital Output - Normal
LPCM - Off
Source Direct - Off
Bass Enhancer - On
Compression - Off
SACD Filter - 100 kHz

In the "etc." munu, I have the Player Mode set to Audio. I have the Source Direct set to Off because I have to go through the speaker calibration with the 2910. I tried to do this with the receiver, but speaker calibration is disabled when DVD is selected on the receiver. I assume this is because I am using the 5.1 channel inputs. This is okay. The only problem I have is that I can't get a test tone to come out of the subwoofer. The other four speakers do play a test tone. I checked to make sure that in speaker configuration, subwoofer is set to Yes and it is. Also, all of the connections appear to be secure. Although I can't get a test tone, the subwoofer is working when I playback a SACD.

 

[flyv65]

Flyv65, I checked my Audio Setup this morning and have the following:

Audio Channel - Multi
Digital Output - Normal
LPCM - Off
Source Direct - Off
Bass Enhancer - On
Compression - Off
SACD Filter - 100 kHz

In the "etc." munu, I have the Player Mode set to Audio. I have the Source Direct set to Off because I have to go through the speaker calibration with the 2910. I tried to do this with the receiver, but speaker calibration is disabled when DVD is selected on the receiver. I assume this is because I am using the 5.1 channel inputs.

Hmmm, it was my understanding that the Source Direct only cuts out the video portion of the processing, to allow a cleaner transmission of the music. When I hit source direct on an SACD I see no difference, but with a DVD-A it loses the picture. As far as the analog inputs not permitting the receiver to set speaker calibration...that seems a little strange; could it be a setting on your reccy?

The only problem I have is that I can't get a test tone to come out of the subwoofer. The other four speakers do play a test tone. I checked to make sure that in speaker configuration, subwoofer is set to Yes and it is. Also, all of the connections appear to be secure. Although I can't get a test tone, the subwoofer is working when I playback a SACD.

Sorry Lewis, I don't know what to tell you. I know there is a speaker configuration section in the multi channel setting, but I've never used it since I run my settings off the reccy. Does the player supply the test tone or are you using a different disc (Avia, DVE, Rives, etc.)?

Bryan...clearly, I don't screw around with my stuff enough...

 

[lewisbj]

When the Source Direct is on, "this setting will result in the setting of the DTS recommended all-channel, full bandwidth playback. Also, the Bass Enhancer mode does not work.

The 2910 supplies the test tones. What is weird though is that I have to toggle between the DVD Input and the Video 1 Input selection on the receiver because I have to see the the menu with Video 1 and hear the test tone on DVD. That doesn't seem correct either. I must be doing something really stupid.

Thanks,
Brian

 

[varkeast]

try connecting the component video connections from the denon directly to the TV. This will make sure the dvd player works on the TV. I would use the S-Video connection for DVD on the receiver instead of Video 1 as well, this should make it so you see and hear the dvd at the same time.

 

[mwheelerk]

Video set up menu

I own the Denon 2900. It seems to me that in the video set up menu you must select componet outputs.

 

[lewisbj]

That makes sence. But the only thing on the video setup for the 2910 is:
TV ASPECT
TV TYPE
PROGRESSIVE MODE
SQEEZE MODE

I have the TV ASPECT set to 4:3 LB, the TV TYPE set to NTSC, the VIDEO OUT to intlaced and PROGRESSIVE MODE to AUTO1. SQUEEZE MODE is disabled.

On the front panel is a HDMI/DVI selector buttons. I have it set to HDMI/DVI OFF. The manual reads "This mode is set to use the Component Video Out connector." Still doesn't work.

Is it possible my three year old TV is not compatible for use with the component video connectors even though the S-Video is working fine?