Help noob installing Banana plug :((((

agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
The other argument is that the simpler the connection the better. Adding spades or plugs could be different metals and gives a chance for noise where bare wire eliminates that possibility.
Consider the thousands or millions of metal to metal boundaries a signal will encounter on any PCB and you have to realize that your logic is fundamentally flawed.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Consider the thousands or millions of metal to metal boundaries a signal will encounter on any PCB and you have to realize that your logic is fundamentally flawed.
Metal to metal contacts are not the issue. It is when 2 different metals make contact with each other in the signal chain that you could introduce artifacts. Any time 2 different metals come into contact, a voltage develops b/w the 2 metals. This is the basis for thermocouple technology.

In an ideal world, you would have all of your wiring and interconnects on a signal path made from 1 continuous peice of metal (from source to voice coils), either etched or forged or stamped, etc, with no disontinuities or irregularities. Obviously there are many hurdles to that approach.

This is analagous to engine exhaust systems on high-end sports cars. If you are serious about performance on a sports car, your exhaust from the heads to the tailpipe will be bent out of 1 pipe. That way, there are no irregularities from welds etc that can cause turbulent flow. When you move into electromagnetism in physics, they always take you back to the concepts that you learned from mechanics (fluid flow), as it is analagous.

If you are serious about signal quality, then you take every step that you possibly can to eliminate turbulance or noise, thus I keep connectors out of my signal chain.

Now, does it really make a difference in the real-world? Quite probably no. But, am I an OCD audioholic? Quite possibly. If I can simplify something and avoid the possibility of noise, then I will.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
Don't use Onkyo AVRs, they trend to get hot. (you know, thermocouple and all ;):D)
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Metal to metal contacts are not the issue. It is when 2 different metals make contact with each other in the signal chain that you could introduce artifacts. Any time 2 different metals come into contact, a voltage develops b/w the 2 metals. This is the basis for thermocouple technology.

In an ideal world, you would have all of your wiring and interconnects on a signal path made from 1 continuous peice of metal (from source to voice coils), either etched or forged or stamped, etc, with no disontinuities or irregularities. Obviously there are many hurdles to that approach.
The way I see it, this really doesn't make any difference at all. Ideal or not, the amount of signal loss is well below audible, possibly to the point of not even being meaningful. The thing about theoretical is, it isn't always practical.

This is analagous to engine exhaust systems on high-end sports cars. If you are serious about performance on a sports car, your exhaust from the heads to the tailpipe will be bent out of 1 pipe. That way, there are no irregularities from welds etc that can cause turbulent flow. When you move into electromagnetism in physics, they always take you back to the concepts that you learned from mechanics (fluid flow), as it is analagous.
Not exactly. The amount of turbulence in the exhaust generated by connections will likely have only a small amount of influence on the performance providing those obstructions are kept to a minimum, which would be expected in a high performance situation. As long as the exhaust is of sufficient size to give the desired flow, with any connections factored in, it shouldn't be an issue. A properly designed exhaust is tuned in length and pulse to achieve correct flow, so making them a single pipe would seem to be irrelevant. Bends in the pipe have more of an effect than the connections. For forced induction this might be more of a factor, but for normally aspirated motors, just like with the connectors, it likely won't make enough difference to matter.

If you are serious about signal quality, then you take every step that you possibly can to eliminate turbulance or noise, thus I keep connectors out of my signal chain.

Now, does it really make a difference in the real-world? Quite probably no. But, am I an OCD audioholic? Quite possibly. If I can simplify something and avoid the possibility of noise, then I will.
:) There's nothing wrong with doing what makes you happy.
 
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