Help me plan my new home theatre

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mckinley02

Enthusiast
I am fairly new to this forum and you all seem to know a hell of a lot more about this stuff than me. I am going to be setting up a new home theatre system and want to make sure I am maximizing the potential of the equipment I have and plan to get. Here are the components I plan to have connected:

42"-50"Panasonic Plasma HDTV (720p) (don't have yet)
Playstation3 (for gaming and Blu-Ray)
standard DVD player
Dish Network HD-DVR (not HD yet)
Surround Sound system (don't have yet)

I plan to run every input I have (DVD,PS3,Satellite) first into my surround sound reciever, then have a singal HDMI cable connecting the reciever to the TV. All sound will run from the reciever to the surround speakers. Thus, I will need a surround sound reciever with at least 2 HDMI inputs and one output.

I want to make sure I am taking full advantage of the high quality sound and video signals coming from my compenents. Primarily I am concerned with the PS3. What type of audio encoding in used in PS3's for gaming and/or for the blu-ray function. Will I need to keep that in mind when purchasing my reciever? Will the audio formats from my PS3 match those put out by the Dish Network HD box? Also, what can I do to avoid "dead spots" in my surround sound output from sound waves overlapping/cancelling each other out?

I plan a long run of HDMI cable from the components to the TV as they will be stored in a separate location. Will a long run of HDMI cable (maybe over 50 feet?) compromise the HD signal quality?

Lastly, I plan to use a universal remote for the entire system with a radio frequency base station to transmit the remote signal into the closet where the components will be located. Does anyone have experience with these and care to share a recommendation on a brand/model?

Last, last thing....do I need a power conditioner for all of this? It's a new contruction house.

Thanks in advance for your advice!
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

Banned
some ideas to consider.

I am fairly new to this forum and you all seem to know a hell of a lot more about this stuff than me. I am going to be setting up a new home theatre system and want to make sure I am maximizing the potential of the equipment I have and plan to get. Here are the components I plan to have connected:

42"-50"Panasonic Plasma HDTV (720p) (don't have yet)
Playstation3 (for gaming and Blu-Ray)
standard DVD player
Dish Network HD-DVR (not HD yet)
Surround Sound system (don't have yet)

I plan to run every input I have (DVD,PS3,Satellite) first into my surround sound reciever, then have a singal HDMI cable connecting the reciever to the TV. All sound will run from the reciever to the surround speakers. Thus, I will need a surround sound reciever with at least 2 HDMI inputs and one output.

I want to make sure I am taking full advantage of the high quality sound and video signals coming from my compenents. Primarily I am concerned with the PS3. What type of audio encoding in used in PS3's for gaming and/or for the blu-ray function. Will I need to keep that in mind when purchasing my reciever? Will the audio formats from my PS3 match those put out by the Dish Network HD box? Also, what can I do to avoid "dead spots" in my surround sound output from sound waves overlapping/cancelling each other out?

I plan a long run of HDMI cable from the components to the TV as they will be stored in a separate location. Will a long run of HDMI cable (maybe over 50 feet?) compromise the HD signal quality?

Lastly, I plan to use a universal remote for the entire system with a radio frequency base station to transmit the remote signal into the closet where the components will be located. Does anyone have experience with these and care to share a recommendation on a brand/model?

Last, last thing....do I need a power conditioner for all of this? It's a new contruction house.

Thanks in advance for your advice!
Mckinley02,

Welcome to Audioholics forums.

There are lots of speakers and AVR (Audio Video receivers) that will meet your needs. The best sound comes from the speakers. The fronts speakers and center are most important and should match in timbre( to maintain seamless front sound). Normally you get the same vendor brand or three speakers all alike for fronts and center. Spend most of your money 9 2/3 on fronts and center). Center is especially important for voice in TV and DVDs. Surround speakers don't have to match and for enchancement and can be smaller and added later.The Sub is good for movies for lower bass sounds, Good brands are SVS and Hsu. Good AVR brand as are; Onkyo, Denon, Yamaha, Pioneer and Marantz. Pick a budget $$$ amount you want to spend and we can give you some specific recommendations.

Long HDMI cable is okay if you get a quality cable. Buy very good yet inexpensive cables from Monoprice or Bluejeanscables. Cables sold in store, such as Monster, tend to be way overpriced.

http://www.monoprice.com/
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/

I recently purchased an universal remote with RF that is one of the easiest and best I have found. It has preprogrammed modes, learning modes and macros. You can "punch through" keys so you can control volume for example for all screens. You can aslo program macros to turn all device off or on from one button. It is reasonably priced at about $80.
http://www.amazon.com/RFS200-PowerPak-Bundle-MasterControl-PowerBlaster/dp/B000FL9E6U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1233257860&sr=8-1


I would also recommend you plan on spending $50 for a Radio Shack SPL meter to set the sound levels equal on all speakers. ( makes your system sound as wonderful as it can ;) http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103667


Power Conditioner. Audioholics is currently have a sale on the H15 power conditioner for $149 now , it is regularly over $400 very,very good price.
http://store.audioholics.com/product/717/0/apc-av-h15-1-5kva-h-type-power-conditioner---silver At this price it is a no-brainer to get one!


Good Luck!

MidCow2
 
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mckinley02

Enthusiast
I would like to keep my budget under $2000, but I'm not sure if I can do it. That includes getting a stellar deal on the TV ($700 or less). That leaves me about $1300 to get the AVR, speakers, cables, remote control system, power conditioner. By the way, what does the power conditioner do?
As a rule of thumb is it better to buy speakers that are sold with an AVR or go with separate brands? I would imagine each AVR is set up to run a certain power load (i.e. i don't want the speakers too big or too small). Does the quality of speaker wire make a big difference?

Still wondering about the audio formats as well. I see people talk about PS3's being in DTS/DD. How do I make sure my AVR will recieve the full audio signal and output it effectively?
 
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mckinley02

Enthusiast
i see a lot of talk about the Yamaha rx-v663 AVR. It sounds like it is very compatable with the PS3.
Do you guys know anything about bluetooth remote control technology in place of the RF?

Thanks again for your help!!!!!
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

Banned
i see a lot of talk about the Yamaha rx-v663 AVR. It sounds like it is very compatable with the PS3.
Do you guys know anything about bluetooth remote control technology in place of the RF?

Thanks again for your help!!!!!

Yamaha RX-V663BL Receiver Yamaha RX-V663BL Receiver $365
http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/home-audio-receivers/Yamaha-RX-V663BL-Receiver/m63935416.html/search=yamaha 663

Dayton SUB-120 HT subwoofer $155
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-SUB-120-Watt-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000C9NV78

Infinity Primus Theater Pack II 5.0 Speaker System $399
http://store.audioholics.com/product/2058/66238/infinity-primus-theater-pack-ii-5-0-speaker-system

Powr pack RF20 - $80
Power conditioner - $150 (protects against lightning, power surges, voltage
spikes)
SPL meter $50
cables and connectors from monoprice $50

Total = $1,249


Good Luck! ;)

MidCow2.

P.S. you want RF instead of Bluetooth; I am not aware of any Bluetooth remote controllers; RF will work through walls and cabinet doors up to ~ 100 feet.

P.S.S. - PS3 works very well with HDMI interface!
 
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Phil Taylor

Phil Taylor

Senior Audioholic
The Panasonic 42PX80U or 50PX80U will help keep you under budget. Watch that HDMI run over 50' - cable quality is important at that distance for 1080p (which you should select for resolution and let the Panny plasma scale it to 768p). Monoprice or Bluejeans should work if you get their best quality HDMI - still a great savings over M*****r. ;)

For a Dish HD DVR may I suggest you get a VIP211 and add an external USB HD - you'll save the monthly DVR fee (only a one-time $39.99 activation fee).
 
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