help me make some speakers

caruros

Audiophyte
I am trying to make some speakers (wooden cabinets and filters).I have bas speakers: 10” (HA 25/1128) 8” 40 w 8 oms ( two of this and they are bas-midlle speakers) and one 8” 80 w 4 oms.I don’t know should I make two cabinets with 8” 40 w 8 oms and clasic 50w hi- tone speaker or two cabinets with 10” (HA 25/1128) as bass speakers 8” 40 w 8 oms midlle speakers and clasic 50w hi-tone.Is sound quality going to change a lot if I use 10” speaker?What should I put in the box to remove vibracions?How to do this?
Please don’t say that I should just buy the original or make same speakers that cost a lot.All of this speakers(that I have) are old.I buy them at some market and my friend makes them work like new.
 
Mudcat

Mudcat

Senior Audioholic
While speakers are probably the easiest and least complicated part of DIY audio. However, they involve more esoteric sciences that you'll have to familiarize yourself with. Unlike copying a schematic for an amp or am/fm radio, speaker building is about sound and craftsmanship. So, first off, read a book. Secondly, while this site is great for for a lot of things, DIY speakers is not one of them, yet; go to a specialized web site on DIY speakers. DIY Audio is one of them.

http://lalena.com/audio/

Siegfried Linkwitz's site
Parts Express DIY Center
Elliot Sound DIY site
Speakerbuilder.net
Steve's Speaker Stuff

These are just a few of the site out there.

I'm sure you'll find that wood should not be your first choice for a cabinet. I'm sure Rip will voice his much more knowledgable opinion soon, so stay tuned.

BTW, there is a DIY site on this forum.
 
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caruros

Audiophyte
thanks

I am having a problem finding a book becose I live in a small town and internet is not a solucion becouse books are on english.Thanks for link it is more than great.I was looking for some informafions about my amp and I found your site.You are profesionals and that is whay I asked question here.Thanks again Mudcat.
I will be back when my speakers are finished so we can talk.
 
Mudcat

Mudcat

Senior Audioholic
Looks like we cross responses. Small town, none english speaking nation. You have a real problem if you want a technical book (unless it's German or Russian).
 
R

ruadmaa

Banned
Build Speaker Cabinets???

The very first biggest item is that speaker cabinets are not made out of wood. You have to use pressed particle board. Wood resonates and does not make a satisfactory speaker cabinet. You will find that the finest speaker makers in the world do not use wood, only veneer.

I would not recommend trying to build your own from scratch. There are many companys that will sell you complete speaker kits which include cabinets that you can "build". There is far more science in speaker cabinets than just building a box.
 
JohnA

JohnA

Audioholic Chief
Here is some help

Hi there, you need to visit Parts Express.

http://www.pesupport.com/cgi-bin/config.pl

This is the site for their tech talk board...90% is about DIY speaker building, they are very helpful and have wonderful insight...If the folks there can't help you than Daren Kuzma @ Parts Express can help..he is the king of speakers and Speaker building a Parts Express.

Also stay far away from Partical Board...You need to use MDF for speaker building! :)
 
annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
The Loudspeaker Design Cookbook, by Vance Dickason is an excellent read for the DIY'er. Any enclosure that will play upper frequencies (above 100hz) should utilize good bracing techniques to avoid coloration from resonant frequencies.
 
Rip Van Woofer

Rip Van Woofer

Audioholic General
Building a set of speakers from a collection of drivers one happens to have around, and without considerable knowledge, is not likely to have a good result I am sorry to say. My usual advice to the firsttime speaker builder is to do what I did, and to build your speakers from plans that were designed by a true expert. This includes using drivers (the raw speakers) that the designer recommends, not whatever you have handy.

However, if you are determined to proceed, you should do some research and learn about some basic concepts such as:
  • Thiele-Small parameters: how to determine them for your drivers and how to use them to design your cabinets
  • How to determine a good crossover frequency and slope
  • The advantages and disadvantages of various crossover types
  • Basic electronics. You should own and know how to use a volt-ohm meter, at least. It is also known as a "multimeter" or DMM (digital multimeter) In addition, an LC meter for measuring inductance (L) and capacitance (C) is very useful for testing crossover components.

With a bit of luck and the above knowledge, you will have speakers that do not sound too bad. With a bit more luck, they might sound O.K. The Websites and books that have already been suggested are good places to begin learning. Since they are in English, and English is not your main language, perhaps similar places for information exist in your language?

These are the simplest basics. True speaker design, whether by professionals or serious hobbyists, involves considerable knowledge in fields such as mathematics, filter theory, electronics, and acoustics, among others. That is why I did not design my own home-built speakers and probably never will design future ones.

This may seem discouraging. Alas, it is the simple truth.
 
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