I stated that a typical stereo receiver has a "sub out" connection. Here is the quote:
From my understanding it is
atypical for a
stereo receiver to offer a sub out...
Perhaps this is something just appearing in more uber-new models?
I am familiar with the Onkyo 8555. I would consider it a typical receiver. It sends full range signals to both the speakers and the sub.
The Outlaw does offer bass management and is the model I was thinking of as atypical when I wrote that the typical stereo receiver has no bass management. The Outlaw is a nice unit, but not inexpensive.
So, you're saying now that it is your stance that typically stereo receivers
have no sub out? And with regard to the 8555, it was my understanding -- and how it was explained to me by Onkyo's customer support -- that there is a built-in "silent" kind of rolloff at 80Hz in the 8555, and that full range signals aren't sent to the sub, as you stated above...
Not at all the same thing!
The stereo receiver's terminals are for "B" speakers. You have no separate control of the "B" speakers as you would for a 2nd zone on an AVR (which has separate volume and source controls so you can listen to two different (or the same) sources at different volumes in the two rooms).
Okay, well, I realize they're not the same thing -- I was merely pointing out that he can have speakers running in another room (i.e. zone) with a stereo model; there isn't the amount of ultimate control like you explain many AVRs have with their Zone 2 abilities and such with the "B" terminals on stereo receivers, true, but there is the ability to run another set at least.
I was not suggesting five, six, or seven channels! Here is the quote:
Okay; again, I was merely pointing out, in a different way, that I don't believe that he needs that many channels for his application, even though you specifically state that the AVR can be run in stereo mode (something I explained to him in great detail in a previous post regarding the way I used to run all my AVRs...that is, surround receivers running in two channel, so I'm actually agreeing with you there) -- initially, I thought you were trying to suggest that these multichannel AVRs have gobs of power going to gobs of channels, and I was merely saying that they don't advertise, normally, all channels driven ratings nor do I think he needs that here. But, this was a reply to a misunderstood intention between us in terms of your quoted post here.
The relevance of the features is totally up to the users situation and objectives for their system.
Your Onkyo is a fine stereo receiver.
I simply listed possible reasons a person might buy an AVR for use in a stereo system so the OP could make an educated decision.
And that's all I was trying to say, really; my "argument" was simply that it's my humble opinion (and I apologize if it came across as anything else) that surround AVRs with onboard decoding don't make sense if the end user
knows for sure that he or she won't be using it down the line for multichannel surround use. In a case like that -- strictly audio purposes -- I am suggesting to the OP that stereo applications would better suit him
in my opinion, and these would include stereo receivers, integrated amplifiers or full blown separates.
