I don't think you can go wrong with the ML Depth. I've demo'd them before, and although they are quite expensive, they sound wonderful. I've also demo'd a 5.1 set of Def Tech's recently, and didn't think the bass in the front towers was equivalent to a higher end sub. It was solid, but didn't seem to go quite as low. It could have been the placement in the HT room, as the towers were probably 6 feet from the corner and 2 feet from the wall. IMO the purpose of a center is for voice, and not bass. You really don't need a sub in a center channel. Are you looking for mind destroying bass, or good clean bass? The Def Tech with built in powered subwoofers were meant to run without any help from a box type sub, but again, placement is key. I'm one to preach the larger the driver, the better, but in the case of the ML, they are my one exception.