HELP!!! AV Receivers & Hi-Fi amps

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sabelv

Enthusiast
Do i need another hi fi amps if i already have an av receiver? can i run my cd player through BOTH my av receiver and an amplifier? if so, how do i do it? If I can only run my cd player through one of them, does that mean i need a seperate speaker system dedicated only to music (CD player)?
 
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m_vanmeter

Full Audioholic
I'm a little confused by your question.

why not just run the CD player through the a/v receiver and select a 2 speaker stereo soundfield ?
 
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sabelv

Enthusiast
Umm, I mean, if i get an amp for my cd player, would it sound better? say, im getting an amp, do i run it directly from the cd player or do i have to connect it with my av receiver? sorry for the confusion. LoL
 
adk highlander

adk highlander

Sith Lord
Can you give us model numbers of the gear? Your receiver will need to have pre-outs to go from the receiver to the amp. If your cd player has a volume control then in theory you could run it directly to the amp but this would be unusual and not allow you to use the amp with other sources.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Do i need another hi fi amps if i already have an av receiver? can i run my cd player through BOTH my av receiver and an amplifier? if so, how do i do it? If I can only run my cd player through one of them, does that mean i need a seperate speaker system dedicated only to music (CD player)?
If you have enough inputs on your AV receiver, then the answer is "no" to the additional amp required.
 
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sabelv

Enthusiast
I am currently planning to build a budget system, thx adk, i understand more about the connecting part now.. btw, would it sound better with an amp? and the pre out section on the receiver is for plugging the amp rite?
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
would it sound better with an amp?
External amp would help if you speakers present unusually hard load for your receiver (4Ohm and/or low efficiency), your receiver built-in amp really bad or you just must have extremely loud volumes most of time.
In all other cases SQ would not change, not more than by 1-2%....

and the pre out section on the receiver is for plugging the amp rite?
Yes
 
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sabelv

Enthusiast
ooo.. okayyy. so basically, if i have a seperate amp, that means i have to have a sperate speaker system just for the amp and cd player, am i right?
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
ooo.. okayyy. so basically, if i have a seperate amp, that means i have to have a sperate speaker system just for the amp and cd player, am i right?
Yes, unless you can find some speaker switching switches as you don't want two amps connected on one speaker.
 
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m_vanmeter

Full Audioholic
separate amp is not worth the effort for your "budget" system.

What a/v receiver do you already have ?
 
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sabelv

Enthusiast
i currently have an old denon (like 8 years or so, sounds great tho), but im planning to get pioneer's vsx 1020 or 1120
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
i currently have an old denon (like 8 years or so, sounds great tho), but im planning to get pioneer's vsx 1020 or 1120
Just curious what is model # of your 8 year old Denon. It sounds like you maybe replacing older BMW with newer Kia .... ;)
 
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MatthewB.

Audioholic General
All three of my systems are run by great recievers (Denon 4802R, Denon 3808ci and an Onkyo 805) that are used as preamps and I have outboard stereo amps on all three systems, Did I need to do this. Hope not at all, but it was the fact that I can get stereo amps at insanely cheap prices that I figure why not. Have I noticed the difference. Yes but only slightly. I noticed slightly better clarity out of my near field rear channel speakers in my main system when I added a seperate stereo amp as compared to the Onkyo 805/ The difference wasnt significant to warrant the purchase, but as I tell my GF it's a cheaper hobby than a mistress.

I would say if you have the stereo amp hook it up, won't hurt anything and may give you more headroom and relieve your recievers internal amp with more power to drive the other speakers hooked up. Looking back I would now consider the outboard amps if I had a huge HT room (I don't) and had spent that money on room acoustics (which would give you far better improvemnets that the small incrimental improvements with an outboard amp.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
its an old denon avr-900..
I found german manual for this receiver and specs for stereo use - not bad imo. 60wpc 8ohm 20hz-20Khz with 0.08% thd - not bad at all
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.denon.de/site/datadir/pdf/ba/Bed_AVR-900.pdf

If you have no issues with headroom - you best bet to improve SQ is to change speakers and/or room treatment. Adding amp ,like Matthew said, will be a minimal change asfaras SQ goes.

p.s: I don't see Pre-Outs on your denon anyways :) so you can't just add an outboard amp without getting new pre-amp
 
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sabelv

Enthusiast
thx a lot man.. haha.. looking to upgrade anyways. im also currently planning to renovate my room (bedroom) where the system is.. lol thx man
 
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sabelv

Enthusiast
i finnaly settled for a marantz sr5003. great receiver, superb sound, pretty good image quality.
 
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