Well, I heard the Venturi's which are older, but they sound good to my virgin ears. I think total I have about $2600-2800 invested in the speakers. I bought all of it through them, so that's why I am able to get the retroactive discount. Even though I like what I read on that Yamaha, for the mere price, availability, and shipping times, I am just going to go with the Denon by default. I'm tired of waiting. I mean my living room with no AVR is like a restored car sitting in a garage with engine at this point (can't do much). The hard part of installing all of the wiring in a house built in 1961 was no easy task, but done. Everything was done clean with plates and everything. And I even custom designed my media console around the speakers that I have (which is nearing completion with ebonizing the interior part of the cabinet and an espresso or java color on the exterior. Before I get ridiculed for putting subs in a cabinet, one, I don't have room, and two, the bottoms of the shelves on both sides are configured by me to replicate that of the SubDude to decouple.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gwxw8oqb3hrammn/My Media Cabinet.jpg?dl=0