Hello From Ireland

[KenM10759]

I don't know what the price of those speakers might be, all I know is that if I had a penny in my pocket that could buy them....I would save the penny.

 

[JOHN FICKEL]

Then why did you say this?

That was said because that's what I learned from this site. Can't Remember who. Now I know that was wrong. If I am wrong or anybody else, I expect to be called out. But Respectfully. I did not join this forum to insult or put anybody down. We are All on here because we enjoy this hobby, and we all want to learn.

 

[markw]

I strongly doubt you were told here that nominal impedance was the lowest it will go.

john, we're not here to insult you and we'll be glad to share what we know BUT, until you're fully confident that what advice you give to visitors is correct, don't offer it. We've got a reputation for being honest and correct (most of the time) and a loose cannon spewing forth incorrect information can quickly make us a laughing stock.

Opinions are one thing and one cannot be wrong offering them. Giving incorrect information based on faulty data is another story.

Sit back, lurk, and learn and hold off giving advice for a while. Knowledge comes with time, listening, learning and experience. Wisdom comes later.

 

[PENG]

That was said because that's what I learned from this site. Can't Remember who. Now I know that was wrong. If I am wrong or anybody else, I expect to be called out. But Respectfully. I did not join this forum to insult or put anybody down. We are All on here because we enjoy this hobby, and we all want to learn.

I do not recall this site has stated anything like that as fact. I do recall someone suggesting one may want to consider the minimum impedance (if provided) instead of just the nominal impedance, not in so many words but something like that.

If there is a somewhat formal/official definition of nominal impedance for loudspeakers one would be able to Google it but I could not find one. One Wiki article claimed Z nominal=Z minX1.15 without stating any back up source, others claimed Z min. is Z avg over the usable freq range of the speakers. The bottom line is, the so called nominal impedance values specified by speaker manufacturers are, while not totally useless, are not very useful either.

 

[JOHN FICKEL]

I do not recall this site has stated anything like that as fact. I do recall someone suggesting one may want to consider the minimum impedance (if provided) instead of just the nominal impedance, not in so many words but something like that.

If there is a somewhat formal/official definition of nominal impedance for loudspeakers one would be able to Google it but I could not find one. One Wiki article claimed Z nominal=Z minX1.15 without stating any back up source, others claimed Z min. is Z avg over the usable freq range of the speakers. The bottom line is, the so called nominal impedance values specified by speaker manufacturers are, while not totally useless, are not very useful either.

Was during one of my other post somebody had mentioned that. I can't remember who and it doesn't matter. It was not a formal thing directly from this website. It was Somebody helping me who suggested that
.

 

[markw]

Whatever, John. I'm merely offering some advice to help you grow in this hobby and, trust me, you could use it.

You're welcome to make any alibi you want to excuse your ignorance but, be aware, you DON'T know as much as you think you do and, when you spread your ignorant BS here, be prepared to be called on it. ...and possibly be chided at the same time.

Ever hear the saying "When you're in a hole, stop digging?"

Oh, here's a pretty good definition of impedance. Took all of a minute to google it.

'Typical speakers have impedance ratings of 4, 8, 10 or 16 ohms. The impedance of a speaker is a physical property that ideally does not change value, although from an electrical engineering standpoint, there are many complex characteristics that make up speaker impedance and the impedance is invariably not a constant and is variable. For this reason, the rating of a speaker is called its 'nominal' value, which pretty much means "in name only".'

Source: https://www.avforums.com/threads/impedance-ohms-and-their-relevance-to-speakers-and-av-amplifiers.1692649/

In any case, it's NOT the minimum as you claimed it was.

 

[aoluain]

......so ive created a bit of a storm with my first thread. Thats first for me. I hope i dont do so much damage with my other threads......

 

[JOHN FICKEL]

Whatever, John. I'm merely offering some advice to help you grow in this hobby and, trust me, you could use it.

You're welcome to make any alibi you want to excuse your ignorance but, be aware, you DON'T know as much as you think you do and, when you spread your ignorant BS here, be prepared to be called on it. ...and possibly be chided at the same time.

Ever hear the saying "When you're in a hole, stop digging?"

Oh, here's a pretty good definition of impedance. Took all of a minute to google it.

'Typical speakers have impedance ratings of 4, 8, 10 or 16 ohms. The impedance of a speaker is a physical property that ideally does not change value, although from an electrical engineering standpoint, there are many complex characteristics that make up speaker impedance and the impedance is invariably not a constant and is variable. For this reason, the rating of a speaker is called its 'nominal' value, which pretty much means "in name only".'

Source: https://www.avforums.com/threads/impedance-ohms-and-their-relevance-to-speakers-and-av-amplifiers.1692649/

In any case, it's NOT the minimum as you claimed it was.

I take it that you've never made a mistake, I am a man and I can man up to my mistakes. It was an honest mistake.

 

[markw]

......so ive created a bit of a storm with my first thread. Thats first for me. I hope i dont do so much damage with my other threads......

No, you're fine. We just want to make sure what you're told here is valid. We kinda take pride in providing the most accurate, truthful, advice possible.

Stick around. We did a CIE tour there a few years ago. Beautiful country. ...and lotsa sheep

 

[markw]

I take it that you've never made a mistake, I am a man and I can man up to my mistakes. It was an honest mistake.

Funny. You don't seem to be "owning up" to it. You seem to be making excuses for it.

Ever hear the expression "All hat, no cattle"?

 

[JOHN FICKEL]

Funny. You don't seem to be "owning up" to it. You seem to be making excuses for it.

Ever hear the expression "All hat, no cattle"?

Thanks for sending that article. It was good information. No I've never heard that expression.

 

[aoluain]

No, you're fine. We just want to make sure what you're told here is valid. We kinda take pride in providing the most accurate, truthful, advice possible.

Stick around. We did a CIE tour there a few years ago. Beautiful country. ...and lotsa sheep

Thanks Mark,

CIE . . . that was a while back then, i trust you had a good time ?

 

[markw]

Thanks Mark,

CIE . . . that was a while back then, i trust you had a good time ?

Very much so, in spite of it being with my first wife.

We landed and spent a few days in Shannon, had a dinner at Bunratty Castle, did the Cliffs of Mohr, the ring of Kerry, a few days in Limerick (where I was hit upon by some gays - in front of my wife), kissed the Blarney stone, a few days in Dublin and Galway and then home.

The people were extrogdinary, the land beautiful. the Guinness fresh and plentiful, and I've never seen so much green in my life.

 

[aoluain]

yup 'tis green all right. You got a lot in for your stay.