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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
PS4 is connected to the Samsung tv HDMI 1 or no-lag input.
ARC from tv goes to ARC input on Sony A/V receiver.
Occasionally the picture goes black and the audio stops.
It lasts for only 5 seconds or so.
What are your thoughts?
 
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pewternhrata

Audioholic Chief
Does this happen when switching sources or randomly when using the ps4?
 
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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
Randomly, I've had it on for 4 hrs now and it hasn't happened yet.
 
Ponzio

Ponzio

Audioholic Samurai
tried another HDMI cable(s)? if so and the same intermittent issue occurs I would give another HDMI port on the Sony AVR a try. HDMI circuit boards on AVR's are notoriously fickle.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
Why don't you connect your PS4 directly to the receiver? ARC is a cluster you know what and to be avoided. TVs, especially the new dumb ones should just be end devices, and the only button you should use on a TV remote is the on/off button.
 
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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
Why don't you connect your PS4 directly to the receiver? ARC is a cluster you know what and to be avoided. TVs, especially the new dumb ones should just be end devices, and the only button you should use on a TV remote is the on/off button.
 
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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
TLS Guy... if I send the HDMI signal from the ps4 to the avr and from there to the tv I'm afraid i will encounter lag.
 
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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
TLS Guy, if I do that, how will i get the audio from the tv to the receiver for off the air broadcasts etc?
 
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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
Also, 4k will not pass-through the avr to the 4k tv from the ps4.
 
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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
And Ponzio... you have probably the easiest try... just procrastinating messing with the back of all my a/v equipment lol.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
TLS Guy, if I do that, how will i get the audio from the tv to the receiver for off the air broadcasts etc?
You can use the optical audio out. On one of my systems I use a Channel Master DVR for over air viewing. This is the ideal solution for cable cutters.
 
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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
TLS Guy, does optical audio support 7.1 signal? Although nothing is really putting out 7.1 except a handful of Blu-ray titles, correct?
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Why don't you connect your PS4 directly to the receiver? ARC is a cluster you know what and to be avoided. TVs, especially the new dumb ones should just be end devices, and the only button you should use on a TV remote is the on/off button.
I agree with the last sentence- a narrow trim ring, flat and without jacks that are 90 degrees to the plane of the screen, too.

I used a commercial plasma display in a residential installation and it had options for the input module- the customer asked if I would be using HDMI and I said "Not until they fix the problems or I have no choice. That was early- 2007 and here I am, still with problems and no choice. The module does, however, have a DVI port, which works fine for the signal, as long as the resolution matches, but it doesn't do 1920 x 1080.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
TLS Guy, does optical audio support 7.1 signal? Although nothing is really putting out 7.1 except a handful of Blu-ray titles, correct?
It depends on the TV. Most do support 7.1, however only in lossy codecs. It does not have the bandwidth for surround in the loss less codecs. However this is the same bandwidth as the ARC return from a TV. HDMI ARC, optical and coax SPDIF all have identical audio bandwidths, and this is not always understood and appreciated.

That is why using a TV as a source and or switch is such a lousy way to configure and engineer a decent AV system.

Everything should be connected to the receiver or pre/pro and I prefer the latter. Then there should be one cable going to the TV with no return cables from TV to receiver.
 
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Gooniebird 63

Enthusiast
It depends on the TV. Most do support 7.1, however only in lossy codecs. It does not have the bandwidth for surround in the loss less codecs. However this is the same bandwidth as the ARC return from a TV. HDMI ARC, optical and coax SPDIF all have identical audio bandwidths, and this is not always understood and appreciated.

That is why using a TV as a source and or switch is such a lousy way to configure and engineer a decent AV system.

Everything should be connected to the receiver or pre/pro and I prefer the latter. Then there should be one cable going to the TV with no return cables from TV to receiver.


So, the only cable from the tv to the receiver should be an optical audio???
I believe the only HDMI output on the receiver that i can send to the tv is the arc.
My Sony STR DN1030 does not have 4k passthrough for the 4k signal from the PS4, but you say I won't see a difference? even on a 75-inch 4k display???
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
So, the only cable from the tv to the receiver should be an optical audio???
I believe the only HDMI output on the receiver that i can send to the tv is the arc.
My Sony STR DN1030 does not have 4k passthrough for the 4k signal from the PS4, but you say I won't see a difference? even on a 75-inch 4k display???
No, it should be an HDMI cable!

Depends on your viewing distance whether you can tell 2K from 4K. At most viewing distances there is no difference and anyway marginal at best.

In fact the picture if these 4Ks is worse than the old top notch 2K plasma TVs that I use and will continue to until they fail.

In any event if you want 4K, your answer is a new receiver, not your current work around.

4K TV means new receiver and cables.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
You can connect your PS4 directly.

Then use a optical audio cable from the PS4 to your receiver.

If your TV has an optical audio output, then just use that to your receiver.

Turn OFF ARC in your TV and the receiver.

You will get digital audio out of the TV to your receiver over the optical cable.

You will get 4K to the TV directly from the PS4.

The TV will take the audio from the PS4 out of the TV using the TVs digital audio output connection.

Digital audio over optical cable and ARC are limited to the exact same codecs. They do not support HD audio.

Only HDMI with a direct connection to your receiver will support HD audio. So, Blu-ray Disc with HD audio should be connected directly to your receiver.
 
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