Have mercy on me, a newb with the same damn questions...

[allforthename]

Monitor Audio


Vintage McIntosh


Love both of these! You nailed it. I'm just curious to see if I can get something like this nearby to save shipping. But this is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for!

With the McIntoshs - if I were to buy those, and then once day decide that I wanted to try and do more of a HT set up, would I need to sell them and start over since, as Mark stated, it would be hard to match timbre? Or could I integrate them with some careful planning?

 

[zieglj01]

Monitor Audio
Vintage McIntosh
Love both of these! You nailed it. I'm just curious to see if I can get something like this nearby to save shipping. But this is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for!
With the McIntoshs - if I were to buy those, and then once day decide that I wanted to try and do more of a HT set up, would I need to sell them and start over since, as Mark stated, it would be hard to match timbre? Or could I integrate them with some careful planning?

You may be able to find more vintage McIntosh, when the time comes.
Keep an eye on Ebay - also, you may be able to find something that will
come close in sound. At least start with 2 front channels for now, if you
wish to buy them.

 

[zieglj01]

I hope, that I am not talking to myself.
In post #22 - the Ouote box should read, Originally posted by allforthename.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Ahhhh - Ok, so now I'm seeing why the receiver is so important. And now, if I understand correctly, I can see why THIS kind of receiver would be so ideal for my situation. Since I'm mounting a projector to the ceiling, the last thing I want is tons of cables running to and from the thing. So if I can plug EVERYTHING into this receiver, and just run one HDMI cable up to the projector... well obviously. Thanks ADTG!! I think these speakers are a little more serious and costly than I want. But I can see why this receiver would make sense. Awesome!

Something like this would also be great:

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-A800-7-1-Channel-Audio-Receiver/dp/B003XDU498/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1313335648&sr=8-4

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-A1000-7-1-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B003XDU48O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1313335648&sr=8-1

The A1000 was just reviewed in Home Theater Magazine.

THD 0.0007%, Crosstalk -93dB, SNR -108dB - superb measurements.

The A1000 has 8 HDMI Inputs & 2 HDMI Outputs.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Ok, so we forgot all the vintage stuff... ok $1K for two speakers and amp...
5004 Marantz avr:
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MARSR5004/Marantz-SR5004-90w-X-7ch-Home-Theater-Surround-Receiver/1.html
Pair of KEF Q500 Towers:
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/KEFQ500WLN/KEF-Q500-Q-Series-5-1/4-inch-Walnut-Floorstanding-Speakers-Each/1.html

Total (shipped) - $1,029.97

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Ok, so we forgot all the vintage stuff... ok $1K for two speakers and amp...
5004 Marantz avr:
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MARSR5004/Marantz-SR5004-90w-X-7ch-Home-Theater-Surround-Receiver/1.html
Pair of KEF Q500 Towers:
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/KEFQ500WLN/KEF-Q500-Q-Series-5-1/4-inch-Walnut-Floorstanding-Speakers-Each/1.html

Total (shipped) - $1,029.97

I can live with that. Retail is $1,850, paying $1,030.

 

[allforthename]

Thank you so much everyone! I'm psyched about this. I'm going to get that Marantz 5004 and pick up those McIntosh speakers (which may still leave me enough to get a subwoofer of CL if I fish around enough). Sweet!

LAST question. The guy selling the McIntosh's (mentioned above on post #16) emailed me back and said "I just wanted to let you know one of the mid range drivers had (I guess)the center dust cover pushed in. When I got them it wasn't pushed in but you can see that it most likely was at one time I thought I had a picture posted to the ad but I don't. It doesn't effect the sound and Mr. Russell said it's no big deal. I can send you a pic." I don't know what that means for the most part - does this sound kosher to everyone? I'm ok to purchase these?

 

[zieglj01]

LAST question. The guy selling the McIntosh's (mentioned above on post #16) emailed me back and said "I just wanted to let you know one of the mid range drivers had (I guess)the center dust cover pushed in. When I got them it wasn't pushed in but you can see that it most likely was at one time I thought I had a picture posted to the ad but I don't. It doesn't effect the sound and Mr. Russell said it's no big deal. I can send you a pic." I don't know what that means for the most part - does this sound kosher to everyone? I'm ok to purchase these?

It will be OK - looks like a good deal

 

[allforthename]

Hey Jim, I went through this whole speaker order and they are en route. The seller just sent this to me:

"I found the service manual that Roger sent when I sent him the crossovers to check out. I will get it in the mail to you. The tweeter*circuit is fused if you blown it it calls for a 1/2 amp fast blow but Roger*said it would be fine using a 3/4 amp. It will only blow if you put a lot of power to them It is in there to protect the tweeter from overload damage."

Does this mean that I have to be careful which receiver I buy? I was going to get that Marantz from post #25, but now I'm worried that it will "blow" the speakers... I'm not sure I understand how to tell if it's too much power.

Thank you!

 

[Swerd]

"I found the service manual that Roger sent when I sent him the crossovers to check out. I will get it in the mail to you. The tweeter*circuit is fused if you blown it it calls for a 1/2 amp fast blow but Roger*said it would be fine using a 3/4 amp. It will only blow if you put a lot of power to them It is in there to protect the tweeter from overload damage."

Does this mean that I have to be careful which receiver I buy? I was going to get that Marantz from post #25, but now I'm worried that it will "blow" the speakers... I'm not sure I understand how to tell if it's too much power

Its not so much which receiver you buy, but how you use it. I'll try to explain. There are two common ways to damage tweeters:

1. Driving them too loud with less powerful amps or recievers. Driving a weaker amp at loud levels can generate a clipped signal (imagine a sine wave with the top part clipped off). The clipped part of the signal is DC and can fry the delicate voice coil (the moving part) of a tweeter. A more powerful receiver can easily drive speakers louder without going into clipping. So in that sense a more powerful receiver, if used intelligently, will be less likely to damage your tweeters.
   
   
2. Driving a tweeter with frequencies that are too low. Usually a crossover is all that is needed to protect the tweeter, so I wondered why this speaker had fuses for the tweeter. A google search came up with this, where it says the crossover frequency from the mid to the tweeter is at 1000 Hz. For most 1" dome tweeters, that's rather low. I believe that explains why the maker provided the fuse to protect the tweeter.

Keep a few spare fuses around, and you should be fine. Enjoy your speakers.

I also found this interesting read on the google search

 

[zieglj01]

Hey Jim, I went through this whole speaker order and they are en route. The seller just sent this to me:
"I found the service manual that Roger sent when I sent him the crossovers to check out. I will get it in the mail to you. The tweeter*circuit is fused if you blown it it calls for a 1/2 amp fast blow but Roger*said it would be fine using a 3/4 amp. It will only blow if you put a lot of power to them It is in there to protect the tweeter from overload damage."
Does this mean that I have to be careful which receiver I buy? I was going to get that Marantz from post #25, but now I'm worried that it will "blow" the speakers... I'm not sure I understand how to tell if it's too much power.

The Marantz and McIntosh should work well together - It will take a lot of power
to blow the fuse. There are other speakers, that were deseigned with a tweeter
protection built in.

 

[ski2xblack]

Did you forget something?

The Marantz lacks phono input capability. (You will need a phono pre-amp to use your tt. Don't worry, they're not expensive.)

 

[allforthename]

The Marantz lacks phono input capability. (You will need a phono pre-amp to use your tt. Don't worry, they're not expensive.)

THANK YOU. Holy crap. Glad you said something. Ok, going back through these posts to look for one with phono.

 

[allforthename]

THANK YOU. Holy crap. Glad you said something. Ok, going back through these posts to look for one with phono.

No, wait. I'm an idiot. I have a preamp. Back to the Marantz!

wow.