Gun Fight at the RLA corral coming soon

RLA

RLA

Audioholic Chief
Just finished the subjective listening evaluation should have the shoot out done in a few weeks hope there is interest in this :D

Don't ask me for sneak peaks unless you have your check book handy :D

Klipsch RB-15, Unisound DAC 1.5s, Axiom M-3Ti, BIC DV-62Si
 

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jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
Well, I can recognize all but one. In the first picture, from left to right, Klipsch RB-15, ???, Axiom M3Ti, and BIC DV62si.
 
RLA

RLA

Audioholic Chief
i Am wondering eXactly whIch One will truMp

I will do my best
Because I Care. Kant Let Idiots Prejudge Speaker Choice Homie.
An eXtra Independent Observer May Undoubtley Now belIeve they all SOUND
good :)
That was fun
 
MacManNM

MacManNM

Banned
RLA said:
I will do my best
Because I Care. Kant Let Idiots Prejudge Speaker Choice Homie.
An eXtra Independent Observer May Undoubtley Now belIeve they all SOUND
good :)
That was fun
Good.
Some pretty big price differences there. Those Axioms cost more than 2x as much as the Unisound or Bics. No first impressions? Come on let something leak here. Do the Bics have the Frias mods?
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
MacManNM said:
Good.
Some pretty big price differences there. Those Axioms cost more than 2x as much as the Unisound or Bics. No first impressions? Come on let something leak here. Do the Bics have the Frias mods?
Where did you find pricing on the Unisounds? Check this out...
AudiogoN ForSale : Speakers: Monitors... with Decware, Sold, 2/16. Unisound BE16 BirdsEye veneer 94db sensitivity 1w/1m, $1700.00, 2/16. Tag Mclaren F1 Proteus Center Channel, $7000.00, 2/16. ...
buy.audiogon.com/cgia/fsb. pl?spkrmoni&1&ctg&st51 - 15k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
 
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RLA

RLA

Audioholic Chief
None of the speakers are modified and the speakers are all about the same MSRP with the BIC listed at $275.95 the general consumer is not going to mod the speaker and if you mod one you need to mod them all.

If you are talking street price you can find all the speakers discounted. WE cannot base our reviews on modified product and e-bay pricing. We have to go with what the manufacture lists and produces. ;)

I don’t want to give any first impressions I will be working as hard as I can to complete the testing. Just finished the build quality comparisons :)
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
I still say you should do a crossover mod supplemental (or perhaps a stock DV62, modified, and extensively modified comparison). Since AH already published a Denon 3910 mod supplemental which was in large part an esoteric mod with a completely subjective evaluation, I think the BIC mod has a right to be evaluated by your staff.
 
RLA

RLA

Audioholic Chief
I still say you should do a crossover mod supplemental (or perhaps a stock DV62, modified, and
Jaxvon
Let me use your Denon 3910 comment as an example

Lets say I was conducting a comparison of DVD players
All about the same price Denon 3910, Marantz, Pioneer Elite, Yamaha
I conducted the testing and declared the Denon the winner of the shootout.
At the bottom of the review I posted a disclaimer that said XXX modification installed on Denon 3910 Would the readers be ok with this?

Another point there are many that own the Denon 3910 how many own one that has been modified? I know there are many of you that own Modified BIC speakers
But all of you combined make up a very small percentage of the people buying
The DV62Si

I may do a supplemental review with the modification but I can’t do this in a speaker comparison unless I modified all of them.
 
patnshan

patnshan

Senior Audioholic
RLA said:
None of the speakers are modified and the speakers are all about the same MSRP with the BIC listed at $275.95 the general consumer is not going to mod the speaker and if you mod one you need to mod them all.

If you are talking street price you can find all the speakers discounted. WE cannot base our reviews on modified product and e-bay pricing. We have to go with what the manufacture lists and produces. ;)

I don’t want to give any first impressions I will be working as hard as I can to complete the testing. Just finished the build quality comparisons :)
I can't wait for the test to be done!

But, the BIC's are about $125 per pair at AUTHORIZED dealers. The MSRP's are really a joke in a lot of cases. You cannot find ANY dealer that sells the BIC"s for that much. If you could, they would have all their inventory still left. This is not UNAUTHORIZED purchasing as you elude to with the ebay comment. Ed Frias sells his FULLY modified BIC's for $250 a pair! Not really a fair comparison :rolleyes:

What about taking the lowest price at an authorized dealer? That would be a MUCH fairer comparison.

Pat
 
Tom Andry

Tom Andry

Speaker of the House
Seriously guys, do you want him to do the review or not? Lighten up.

MSRP, joke or not, is the fairest measuring stick to gauge to which consumer these speakers are targeted. The fact that they can be had for lower is immaterial. The Axioms can be had for less at the Factory Outlet too. So what?

Many of you have been touting the Bics, the Axioms have a very good rep, the unisounds already got a good write up from Gene, and Klipsch is a well respected brand. I for one am looking forward to the review. Tearing apart a review before it is even published is a little silly.

Don't get me started on the mod thing. Really. Don't. I'll just say this. Level playing field. What is good for one must be good for all.
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
Ya! what he said! ^ :p


Looks good, im insterested to see how the Bics hold their own against axiom and klipsch. You guys should see if you can do another subwoofer shoot out, I love those.


The Sheep
 
S

soundsfine

Audioholic
Sheep said:
Looks good, im insterested to see how the Bics hold their own against axiom and klipsch. You guys should see if you can do another subwoofer shoot out, I love those.
Yes! That would be great! Get the low-end subwoofers in a row to match the low-end bookshelves!
 

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