got b&w 800D but cant afford anything else

[JerryLove]

thanks alot guys! looks like i should have enough in a week. the yamaha looks ok, would look better if its in black.

Do you have any paint?

 

[tuk]

i dont trust my self with painting after what i did to my parents fence

 

[tuk]

thanks, chris357 for the link! i just looked at them and these are prefect, price range, looks.

just called a mate and his gonna lend me the money need for them. lets see how it goes

 

[WmAx]

thanks, chris357 for the link! i just looked at them and these are prefect, price range, looks.

just called a mate and his gonna lend me the money need for them. lets see how it goes

Warning: If you intend to use the powerful DSP EQ system to get optimal SQ, you are best served getting an amp with input trims like the Yamaha. The XPA-5 may have XLR inputs but it's input sens. is too high to directly connect to a DSP like the DCX2496, which will have signal levels too high on the XLR outputs - a bad mix with an amp like the Emotiva resulting in audible hissing. This does not mean you can not use the DCX2496 or other units with the Emotiva amp. It just means you would have to use an external signal attenuator between the DCX and amplifier.

-Chris

 

[lsiberian]

cheap, they are

durable, they are

powerful, they are

low noise floor, they have

low impedance drive capabilities, they have

uniform output from 20hz-20,000hz, they have

balanced and unbalanced connections, they have

Rack mountable, they are

hidden, they could be, if necessary

Yamaha pro amps for the win.

There is absolutely no reason not to purchase a pro amplifier excluding three reasons

1.) you can't stand the appearance (no big deal here if all you care about is the sound quality)

2.) some of them have fans, the Yamaha's rely mostly on convection cooling with fans as a backup (and you have to be pushing them extremely hard for extremely long periods of time to get them to turn on, it's likely they never will)

3.) you have a mental block about the mystical world of audiophiledom, and get hung up on all that non-sense those weirdos with ERS paper and musical, enthusiastical, danceable, several thousand dollar cables that there cryogenically frozen and sent into space for 10 years, later retrieved, and sold to the unsuspecting audiophile that thought it would give him the dead cold accurate, yet open, sound they where looking for.

If you ask me the last reason usually doesn't affect people here, we like to keep sane.

There are plenty of reasons not to buy pro-amps.

1. You can't afford them
2. Your wife is too lazy to press the power button.
3. You can't stand the beauty of a powerful device.
My A500 is beautiful and a Yamaha would be even prettier.
4. You like to build your own amps.
5. They are given to you so you don't have to pay.

2 & 4 are the best excuses.

Once you hold a power amp in your rack it gives you a feeling of power and confidence. Performance improves in many areas. Men use real amps. Consumer amps are for the Chickens!

 

[chris357]

Sorry pure hype nothing else.

actually I do disagree with you there.. I've had some other amps and the krell crushes them. I have more bass from my NHT 2.5's than I have ever thought possible almost so that i have been running for almost a year with no sub at all. i woudl never buy it new though for that kind of money its to much.. but on the used market i think its a decent value even though its still more expensive.

I'm not deluded to think that when buying some of this stuff new you arent paying for the marketing, but I will put it up against anyones system and i will never have to say I dont have enough power to run any home speakers

250 at 8 ohm, 500 at 4 ohm and 1000 at 2 ohm. coming in at 67 pounds its a true beast!!!!

 

[lsiberian]

actually I do disagree with you there.. I've had some other amps and the krell crushes them. I have more bass from my NHT 2.5's than I have ever thought possible almost so that i have been running for almost a year with no sub at all. i woudl never buy it new though for that kind of money its to much.. but on the used market i think its a decent value even though its still more expensive.

I'm not deluded to think that when buying some of this stuff new you arent paying for the marketing, but I will put it up against anyones system and i will never have to say I dont have enough power to run any home speakers

250 at 8 ohm, 500 at 4 ohm and 1000 at 2 ohm. coming in at 67 pounds its a true beast!!!!

The mental effect of a good amp is good and allowed, but consumer amps are vastly more expensive than pro-amps. FYI amps come from a few semiconductor manufacturers. Texas Instruments for example is an amp chip maker.

 

[WmAx]

actually I do disagree with you there.. I've had some other amps and the krell crushes them. I have more bass from my NHT 2.5's than I have ever thought possible almost so that i have been running for almost a year with no sub at all. i woudl never buy it new though for that kind of money its to much.. but on the used market i think its a decent value even though its still more expensive.

I'm not deluded to think that when buying some of this stuff new you arent paying for the marketing, but I will put it up against anyones system and i will never have to say I dont have enough power to run any home speakers

250 at 8 ohm, 500 at 4 ohm and 1000 at 2 ohm. coming in at 67 pounds its a true beast!!!!

Put it up against anyone's (MY) system? Are you sure you are ready for that task?

Amps have no special properties. If an amp really does sound different, it will also measure differently, showing very large differences in measurement. The suggested Yamaha amps are simply powerful, superbly built, transparent amplifiers. BTW, what does weight have to do with anything? The Behringer EP2500 weighs like 45 lbs. and produces more real (measured) output power than the specs you posted above. And it only costs $350. In addition, it uses true military spec circuit boards with redundant trace layers, and uses only high quality electronic components, despite is low price.

-Chris

 

[chris357]

I dont have the technical expertise some of you have so I will take your statement before I take someone just saying its pure hype with no technical backing as you have included.

and yes i'd put mine up against anyones i may not win but its mine and I like it and to me it sounds amazing and i dont think anyone who is into this stuff woudl disagree with me. Does your sound better.. probably you are an engineer audo guru yours better sound better than mine. I'm an uneducated hack that has only just scratched the surface of this hobby, just when I learn somthign new.. i learn the next thing that kills what I just learned.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I have 100 bucks saying my system sounds as good as Chris357's and the lows are twice as good....

 

[chris357]

I have 100 bucks saying my system sounds as good as Chris357's and the lows are twice as good....

wait till i get my sub built

 

[Seth=L]

wait till i get my sub built

I DEMAND THAT YOU START A MEMBER'S SYSTEM THREAD FOR YOUR STUFF. I WANT TO SEE WHAT IT ALL LOOKS LIKE, NOW!!!!!!!!

 

[WmAx]

Chris, what kind of sub are you going to build? P.Dawg uses the extraordinary TC Sounds AXIS 15", one the better subs in the world. The only better driver being the TC Sounds LMS drivers. I am using 2 of the 15" AXIS drivers in my new mains, up to 60Hz, with JL W7 8" drivers taking over from 60Hz-160Hz.

-Chris

 

[chris357]

Chris, what kind of sub are you going to build? P.Dawg uses the extraordinary TC Sounds AXIS 15", one the better subs in the world. The only better driver being the TC Sounds LMS drivers. I am using 2 of the 15" AXIS drivers in my new mains, up to 60Hz, with JL W7 8" drivers taking over from 60Hz-160Hz.

-Chris

damn i cant catch a break...

 

[chris357]

I DEMAND THAT YOU START A MEMBER'S SYSTEM THREAD FOR YOUR STUFF. I WANT TO SEE WHAT IT ALL LOOKS LIKE, NOW!!!!!!!!

how can i refuse a request like that

 

[lsiberian]

wait till i get my sub built

No wait till PDawg gets his next sub built.

 

[lsiberian]

Chris, what kind of sub are you going to build? P.Dawg uses the extraordinary TC Sounds AXIS 15", one the better subs in the world. The only better driver being the TC Sounds LMS drivers. I am using 2 of the 15" AXIS drivers in my new mains, up to 60Hz, with JL W7 8" drivers taking over from 60Hz-160Hz.

-Chris

This means you will have the full range of sound from 20hz to 20khz with no hiccups. That's just insane.

 

[WmAx]

This means you will have the full range of sound from 20hz to 20khz with no hiccups. That's just insane.

You seem to underestimate the AXIS. Using two in sealed cabinets, and with a little EQ, I will have in room response, flat, with high SPL and low distortion, down to about 10-12 Hz.....with 110-113dB capability at 10-12Hz... and 130+db by the time I pass 20Hz.

-Chris

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I bet your B&W 800Ds sound great just sitting there.

Although I doubt that you are actually letting them collect dust.

You probably wipe them at least once a day.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Here you go. You could get any of these combo's for well under 500 bucks and not be compromising on sound quality one bit just as Chris stated. I have the EP-2500(EP-4000 now) and 5 of the A-500's. They are all fantastic sounding amps. I am running an A-500 with the Gemini Pre in the bedroom.

http://www.geminidj.com/pa7000.html

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-BEH-EP4000-LIST

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-BEH-EP2000

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-BEH-A500-LIST