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zumbo

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Set all speakers to SMALL.(page 55 & 56)
Select SWFR for bass-out. (page 56)
Set x-over. (page 57)
 
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manly p hall said:
the room is medium/large. i like my tunes fairly loud. problem with every tower i've purchased they sound great at low volume levels but kinda sucked when you really cranked them...
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That has nothing to do with sensitivity that the towers you auditioned sucked while at high volumes. I suspect room acoustics is the bigger culprit.

Go down and audition these speakers and hear them for yourself rather than assuming how they are going to react based on sensitvity figures. ;)
 
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What SPL are you looking for , something like 110 dB ? :cool: :cool:
Here is what you need :eek: a Berhinger Power2500 Power Amp.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHEP2500

Good Luck!

P.S.- Save up for this sub; It is the mostest, awesomest sub : Gotham g213 at 3800 watts.
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i bet that amp has a loud a$$ fan on that bad boy. i'm not trying go extreme spl. i just wanna be able to crank the hell out of it, every now and then
 
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Before you run two subs, be sure you clearly think-out placement.

If you were going to run one cable one direction, and another cable the other direction, the y-adapter I posted would be the best option. That is called a 1M2F.(M=male)(F=female) You would use the addapter at the receiver, and run two separate cables to the subs.

If you were going to place the subs in the same location, you would want to use a 1F2M. This way, you would only have to buy one cable for the run.

The other option would be to purchase subs that offer LFE pass-through. My sub has this, as do many others.

EDIT: Answered your previous post on the next page. You were posting your question while I was posting this. LOL
 
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manly p hall said:
i bet that amp has a loud a$$ fan on that bad boy. i'm not trying go extreme spl. i just wanna be able to crank the hell out of it, every now and then
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Which is exactly why you need an amplifier with a large amount of headroom.
I suspect other than some of the reasons already mentions (room acoustics, etc.) that this is a big reason you have not found a speaker to your liking.

For $8 or so you can equip the EP2500 with a quiet fan.

Keeping the amplifier completely out of clipping ensures any problems you encounter are coming from the speaker itself.
 
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manly p hall

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zumbo said:
Where did you set your x-over point?
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couldn't figure that one out... let me go try that. i also couldn't figure out how to but the front speakers "small". why do i need to do that. their sure as hell not small ;)


what should i set the cross over at? 80hrz?
 
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While you can get great 2CH w/ subs for under $2,500 I don't think that's overkill at all. My rig consists of Monitor Audio GR20s/GR Center/GR10's with a pair of HSU TN-1220 subs...just the 2CH part is well over that range.

I'm not a huge believer in different speakers for different genres- within reason, a good speaker will play anything it's asked to. That said, a speaker that's a touch bright might be okay with some genres but less forgiving with others.

Just so I'm clear- are you going strictly 2CH? Even for movies? I'm not very familiar with that receiver but there's always a way to do it, even without subwoofer outputs.
 
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manly p hall said:
couldn't figure that one out... let me go try that. i also couldn't figure out how to but the front speakers "small". why do i need to do that. their sure as hell not small ;)
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This is a misunderstood phrase. SMALL refers to two things.

1) The low-end frequency response your speakers are capable of.

2) Whether or not you want the receiver to re-direct low frequencies to your sub that are found on media without an LFE track.


manly p hall said:
what should i set the cross over at? 80hrz?
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Depends on the FR of the center channel. While most would argue that it depends on the mains, with a receiver such as yours, the center has to be taken into consideration.

Please list your speakers.
 
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manly p hall

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Rob Babcock said:
While you can get great 2CH w/ subs for under $2,500 I don't think that's overkill at all. My rig consists of Monitor Audio GR20s/GR Center/GR10's with a pair of HSU TN-1220 subs...just the 2CH part is well over that range.

I'm not a huge believer in different speakers for different genres- within reason, a good speaker will play anything it's asked to. That said, a speaker that's a touch bright might be okay with some genres but less forgiving with others.

Just so I'm clear- are you going strictly 2CH? Even for movies? I'm not very familiar with that receiver but there's always a way to do it, even without subwoofer outputs.
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rob=freemason?

scottish rite?

york?
 
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manly p hall

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zumbo said:
This is a misunderstood phrase. SMALL refers to two things.

1) The low-end frequency response your speakers are capable of.

2) Whether or not you want the receiver to re-direct low frequencies to your sub that are found on media without an LFE track.




Depends on the FR of the center channel. While most would argue that it depends on the mains, with a receiver such as yours, the center has to be taken into consideration.

Please list your speakers.
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speakers? i'm ashamed to say....


athena ls500's and energy c-c100 center
 
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zumbo

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manly p hall said:
speakers? i'm ashamed to say....


athena ls500's and energy c-c100 center
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I would start-out at 80Hz, but would not be afraid to try 60Hz. The only issue you may have with 60Hz is when employing the center channel on things like a concert dvd. If you get a slap, just back-off on the volume a little.

I use a 60Hz x-over point, and my center channel has similar specs as yours. 60Hz helps a lot with not being able to localize the sub. It also makes the sub blend better with the mains. A LOT BETTER.

The specs for my center.
Impedance: 4 Ohms
Frequency Response: 50Hz - 32kHz
Sensitivity: 90dB
Power Range: 70 - 130 Watts
Crossover Frequency: 3kHz

The specs for yours.
Recommended Amplifier Power: up to 125 watts
Nominal Impedence: 8 ohms; Minimum Impedance: 4 ohms
Frequency Response: 50Hz-20kHz +/- 3 dB
Useable Bass Response (-10db Anechoic): 45 Hz
Sensitivity: anechoic 88 dB; 2 speakers in a typical room: 91 dB
Crossover Point: 2.2 kHz
 
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