G R Research Speakers

[mulester7]

.....JGarcia got me to thinking the other night about his speakers....I looked them up....they would HAVE to be very good with exceptional transparency....+/- 1.2 db full-range.....he mentioned his tweeter rolled off at 120 db per octave....these come in kit form for budgets....this is BOUND to be a VERY GOOD 2-way that speaks as one voice....in full-kit form, $300 for one pair....a steal for such specs....and good sensitivity for a 4 ohm speaker....91.....

http://www.gr-research.com/kits/av2.htm

 

[j_garcia]

The 120dB/octave roll off was for the Joseph Audio RM7s, not these guys. The chart I listed in the other post shows the x-over point for the A/V-2 on that page. These guys really are wonderful with music, but man did movies ever benefit from them as well

The kit doesn't include the cabinets, which is where much of the cost is, but if you are capable of woodworking, they are definitely a steal. You'd be surprised at what I picked up my most recently acquired surround pair for.

The A/V-1s are also quite excellent, and sound nearly identical. The only significant difference being the sensitivity, and obviously with two midbass drivers, the 2s supply more impressive midrange.

Let me just add: they have some of the best customer service ever. They're very good about responding to my dumb questions.

 

[mulester7]

The 120dB/octave roll off was for the Joseph Audio RM7s, not these guys. The chart I listed in the other post shows the x-over point for the A/V-2 on that page. These guys really are wonderful with music, but man did movies ever benefit from them as well

The kit doesn't include the cabinets, which is where much of the cost is, but if you are capable of woodworking, they are definitely a steal. You'd be surprised at what I picked up my most recently acquired surround pair for.

The A/V-1s are also quite excellent, and sound nearly identical. The only significant difference being the sensitivity, and obviously with two midbass drivers, the 2s supply more impressive midrange.

.....oops....add 230 to 300....still magnificent specs....and JGarcia, I suspect your tweeter rolls off at least at 60 db or close....so they are wonderful for music, and the movies benefitted as well, huh?....let's apply that to the HT speakers and Music speakers discussion....I firmly believe what Mtrycrafts said....the speakers don't know the difference in the HT and Music signals.....

 

[j_garcia]

I don't recall if it was that specific discussion I commented in, but I do feel that certain speakers may lend themselves to being better for one or the other. Music tends to be mixed differently, though with movies I am not usually doing critical listening for specifics as much as music except maybe with dialogue. These guys do what they do well, and their clarity does seem to be a benefit with movies as well. I've listened to a lot of speakers, and these guys really floored me the first time I heard them. I'm very happy with them.

 

[mulester7]

.....guys, I got to plug these again as a DYI....it says a "proprietary crossover", and that says it does it's job well, which is chopping the bottom of the tweet, and the top of the woofers....but what gets my eye, is this +/- 1.2 db variance from the top to the bottom of the frequency response the enclosure will emit....

.....measuring points are set up all along the frequency response, and the worst this speaker does at any one point of measuring, is just over one decibel too loud or too soft....1.2 decibels, anachoic, the one that counts....that's HUGE, scoring it like golf, of course.... JGarcia has five of them.....that "must" be sweet, with a PB 10....

http://www.gr-research.com/kits/av2.htm

.....EDIT....and yes, that would be "DIY".....

 

[j_garcia]

I have a feeling it probably won't be a problem for you, but I should note that these guys are picky about placement. It took me hours to place them properly, but when done, Mmmmm. What center? There's no center in 2ch

Mule, if you're really serious, I may know of an already built pair for sale.

Check Audiogon too, there's a pair of Criterions (discontinued, now offered by Salk) that use a ribbon tweeter.

 

[mulester7]

There's no center in 2ch

.....I assume you're meaning two of your speakers fill up the middle, JGarcia....mine do the same....but I noticed you have 5 GR Research 2's in your HT.....

 

[j_garcia]

I do have one as my center, but with just 2 running, it sounds like the center is getting in on the action

 

[mulester7]

I do have one as my center, but with just 2 running, it sounds like the center is getting in on the action

.....ok, I see, JGarcia....you do have 5 in surround....yes, I could be interested in a "seasoned" pair, haha....but then again, AHEM, one can't send you a PM, can he?....you could enable your PM capabilities just long enough to send me some info....what's with these members not showing where they reside?....ya'll think someone's gonna' go lookin' for ya'?....huh?.....who'd want your mangy butts?.....

 

[j_garcia]

Let me check to see if they are still available and I will PM you the info. Not sure how long it will take to find out, but could possibly be as long as a few days.

 

[mulester7]

Let me check to see if they are still available and I will PM you the info. Not sure how long it will take to find out, but could possibly be as long as a few days.

....at "your" pace, Sir, and thank you.....

 

[mulester7]

....this guy is the recommended cabinet speaker-enclosure manufacturer for GR Research Speakers....neat slide show.....I now possess the ability to purchase a brand new pair of 2's, WITH matching stands pitched in, at a price that I don't really care what finish, thanks, JGarcia, by PM, no less, and sure, sure, I'm holdin' out for cherry wood....but,....I may move on this one....the top-to-bottom is exceptional, and I'm hoping the tweet rolls off at least about 40 per-octave.....could end up being high and low centers, with the stands under my rear bookshelves....which now sit in shame, haha....really, one is sitting on the end of a component cabinet, with components on top including the speaker on the end, with drawers and doors....the right rear, is sitting on three yearbooks, and under them is a large, black, traveling trunk....you think I'm kidding?....git up off that floor....here's the enclosure guy.....

http://www.rutledgeaudiodesign.com/