? for those who have DVD-audio players

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Ilovemovies

Audioholic Intern
Hello, I've been researching a bit on the "Universal DVD audio players", I was able to hear one last weekend, and to be honest the quality and clarity of the music blew me away!!

So I'm looking forward to responses from those on the forum who own one of these players, pros/ ccons , are you happy with it? any little tips I should know in searching for a player?

basiclly anything you could share would be greatly appreciated, hubby and I are newbies in terms of this type of music and disks.

One thing I have come to realise is that if your Canadian ,(we are) the disks themselves are not easy to come by
 
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Mort Corey

Senior Audioholic
If you get one, may as well find a unit that offers both DVD-A and SACD. The only drawback is (as you've found out) is limited software. If you purcahse a unit that plays both multi channel formats you'll have a better selection available.

Mort
 
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DISCMAN

Audioholic Intern
I had nothing but trouble from a Mitsubishi DVD-A player. Much happier with my Yamaha C-750 that was reviewed elsewhere on this forum.

[Edit - added review link]
 
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footman

Junior Audioholic
i agree with mort

purchase a universal player. you will be able to sample both formats. audioholics in the past year has reviewed positively
at least two machines , a yamaha and a pioneer. i own the pioneer and am quite happy with it. I make it a point whenever i purchase new titles to check the hi rez format first. i also use the internet to track down discs. also i buy new titles i have never heard and do not duplicate works i own on cd, lp or tape. why these formats have never caught on with consumers is a mystery to me as in most cases they do add to your musical enjoyment.
 
shokhead

shokhead

Audioholic General
Younger crowd is into quanity instead of quality.
 
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Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
I've been very happy with my Denon DVD-2200. The sound is great, it offers good bass management and the picture is terrific. It also has a memory buffer to eliminate the hangup you get at the layer change point. It's been replaced by newer models, but you can probably still find one. Of course, the new models would be "better" in that they have even more features, but you might get a good price on the '2200 since it's been replaced.
 
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matthewraz

Enthusiast
ontaryite

i'm in ontario too and just got the universal 5-disk from yamaha c750. you may have some hybrid stones or dylan disks already! (both cd and sacd)
love the player and amazon.ca has good prices/selection with free shipping on orders over $39. best buy also has sacd and dvd-a sections.
 
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20to20K

Full Audioholic
I've got a 2200 as well...

Rob Babcock said:
I've been very happy with my Denon DVD-2200. The sound is great, it offers good bass management and the picture is terrific. It also has a memory buffer to eliminate the hangup you get at the layer change point. It's been replaced by newer models, but you can probably still find one. Of course, the new models would be "better" in that they have even more features, but you might get a good price on the '2200 since it's been replaced.
...and performance wise I have no complaints. With the functionality of it I have a few...perhaps Mr. Babcock can inform me how he overcomes these:

1) The inability to easily que up tracks to play. You can't skip to a particular track prior to playing to cue up for say recording purposes. You hit play first, wait for the disk to actually start playing, skip to the track you want the quickly hit pause (if you're REALLY fast) or skip backwards again and hit pause again.

2) No accelerated/muted scan feature. If you want to scan to the middle of a track you can only do so at a speed which is barely faster than normal play and you hear the scan at full volume.

My 2200 replaced a second generation Pioneer 6 disk magazine changer from
1988 and it performed both of these features (and still does).

There are a couple more quircks like this that have bit me in the past that I can't think of off the top of my head right now...

Don't know if the new Denon line handles these issues any better, but I will check them out. If they do, I may look to upgrading to the 3910 so I can take advantage of the Denon Link with my 3805.
 
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westie7

Enthusiast
I've tried researching the topic of DVD Audio and have come up short. Can someone please tell me the difference between playing a DVD Audio disc in an appropiate player and playing it in a standard player DVD player?

Thanks
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
In addition to the multi-channel, high resolution tracks on a DVD-A, the majority of them also have at least one of PCM or Dolby Digital.

A regular DVD-Video player will play the PCM or DD tracks, but not the high res tracks. Only a dvd-audio or universal player will be able to decode and play the high res tracks.
 
shokhead

shokhead

Audioholic General
In a DVD-A,it Hi Rez and not recorded the same as a reg DVD. You need a player and reciever that has the 6 analog inputs and outputs. Theres a ton of info on this site that will explain it much better then me.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
Yes, direct track entry is impossible with the Denon. You can do this with SACD but not DVD-A. This "problem" is very common with DVD-A and most players I've used have this quirk. It occasionally irks me, but overall it's not a huge issue to me personally. I have no idea if newer Denons exhibit this quirk, either.

I virtually never ff/scan thru an audio track, so I'm not even sure how fast it goes. That one's a total non-issue to me, but I can see how it could bug someone else.
 
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Ilovemovies

Audioholic Intern
well the Sony player we got today doesn't play DVDA-A but SACDS and CDS

So i picked up a copy of Pink Floyd SACd .......... And honestly I'm not as impressed as I thought I would be...
Don't get me wrong it is a nice mastered SACD, but i just dont think the "quality" it is worth the cost of the disks (IMHO)

so just for the hey of it.... I played the SACD/ hybrid on our Dennon cd player and I prefered the Dennon lol go figure!

I'm also dissapointed in the SACD selection in comparrison to the DVDA's there really is not a selection at all.... for the SACDS

however the gentleman who sold me the disk , encouraged me to take the sony SACD/DVD player back and consider a universal, he said alot of stores have decided to not even carry SACDS....
 
shokhead

shokhead

Audioholic General
Sony's dont pllay DVD-A but you knew that. I'd like to know which stores he's talking about. Are you sure you have the bass management set right on the player?
 
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Ilovemovies

Audioholic Intern
Is it comon to purchase a DVD-A disk and find one or 2 songs on it that have hiss in the speakers? yet the rest of the songs are perfect?, very clear and no back ground his coming from the speakers
 
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DISCMAN

Audioholic Intern
no, I've never heard that on any of my players.
 
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Ilovemovies

Audioholic Intern
well this DVDA is a comiliation of artists singin with Santana

so maybe the couple of songs that hiss are from the original masters, and because it is DVDA it is picking up the hiss
 
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Ilovemovies

Audioholic Intern
>>No hiss on any of mine<<<

Just thought I would follow up on this Just incase someone is interested in purchasing the "Santana" supernatural DVDA.....

I went to Future shop and the rep has this disk so he played it in 2 seperate DVDA players Samsung and I cant remember the other brand, we discovered it was deffenetly the disk
 
WooHoo

WooHoo

Audioholic
Ilovemovies said:
well the Sony player we got today doesn't play DVDA-A but SACDS and CDS

So i picked up a copy of Pink Floyd SACd .......... And honestly I'm not as impressed as I thought I would be...
Don't get me wrong it is a nice mastered SACD, but i just dont think the "quality" it is worth the cost of the disks (IMHO)

....
What did you pay for the Pink Floyd SACD? I bought mine from Amazon for $13.99 US. I'll pay that for that kind of sound anytime! :)
 
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