JohnnieB

JohnnieB

Senior Audioholic
I used to have a Kenwood GE1100 12 band eq. Had reverb, pink noise generator, was cool to look at and play with. Was just wondering if anybody is still running an eq. What are some thoughts on eq's in general. Does anybody still make a quality eq? Graphic or parametric?
 
fuzz092888

fuzz092888

Audioholic Warlord
I use a behringer and miniDSP's with REW to EQ my sub's. I also have an antimode dual core which will do sub's or speakers.
 
JohnnieB

JohnnieB

Senior Audioholic
This just for room correction or is there a specific sound you go for with your subs.
 
fuzz092888

fuzz092888

Audioholic Warlord
This just for room correction or is there a specific sound you go for with your subs.
I've played around with it a bit and for pop/rap/hip hop/punk/etc I still fiddle with it a little bit (mainly doing a little boosting to get a bit more visceral thump), but for classical, jazz, and movies I overwhelmingly prefer an equalized flat, accurate response. For speakers, through the midrange into the upper frequencies (up to where I can still hear) I want it flat and accurate. I don't like the Audyssey rolloff or messing with any frequencies when it comes to my mains.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
Graphic equalizers in home audio has fallen out of fashion. I don't know of any receiver made now that has them, and separate units seem to be digital parametric types. Many modern receivers have automated room response software that probably does a much better job at room equalization than any of those graphic equalizers.

The problem was that people used those multi-band graphic equalizers as a volume control – as in louder is better. Raising multiple adjacent bands introduced more problems than it solved. Instead of making a smoother frequency response, it made for an uneven noisy one. I used to know a link that explained this problem, but I don't know it. Try reading this instead Constant-Q Graphic Equalizers.

The conventional variable-Q equalizer suffers from a great deal of filter overlap at low corrective settings (which gives it its "combining" characteristics) and a severe degradation of its bandwidth at high settings, making its performance very unpredictable.
In my experience, using a limited capability digital parametric equalizer built into my receiver, they can be good at taming low frequency room resonance (one note bass). But they should be used to lower responses, not to raise them. And they can only be used well if you have the ability to know what frequencies are the problems. That's where automated room response software is useful.
 
JohnnieB

JohnnieB

Senior Audioholic
My pre/pro doesn't have automated room response. I may look into software or some sort of standalone unit. I'll know more after new speakers get here and I can play around with the setup a bit.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Check out the close up of my equipment setup in sig line. I think you will notice a few EQs in the system.
 
Philip Bamberg

Philip Bamberg

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While I would not run a throw-back equalizer in a system, they can be useful just to identify/learn at what frequencies certain sounds occur. IOW, connect it to a tape out jack to watch the display of music playback.
 
WaynePflughaupt

WaynePflughaupt

Audioholic Samurai
I used to have a Kenwood GE1100 12 band eq. Had reverb, pink noise generator, was cool to look at and play with.
Keep in mind that your Kenwood connected through a tape monitor loop, and receivers don’t have those any more. These days the only way to connect an outboard EQ is between the pre amp and amplifier, which means you must add separate amps if you don’t already have them.


What are some thoughts on eq's in general. Does anybody still make a quality eq?
Equalizers can make an audible improvement if you know how to do it properly. Many people don't. As far as I know, none of the traditional home audio brands make equalizers any more. The good ones now are all from pro audio companies – as well as the ones not worth using. I’m using the superb Yamaha YDP2006 digital parametric in my system; you can see my review of it here.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
 
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JohnnieB

JohnnieB

Senior Audioholic
Thanks e'one for the replies. The yamaha looks great. I'm one of those people who probably used an EQ the wrong way. I have been surfing around for information to teach myself about sound and how to work with it properly. I'm just starting my system build, will be in 2 ch. mode when my speakers get here at the end of the month. Next addition will be a sub. Once that gets here the tweaking will really begin. Trying to find the best way to go about room adjustment. Looking at different pc software, but if I don't know how to properly use it, i'd be throwing my money and time away. Not to mention making great speakers sound bad. Time to head over to the "room acoustics" thread and see if I can glean any useful info over there.
 
JohnnieB

JohnnieB

Senior Audioholic
crafts: sweet setup, beautiful home. View is much better without the screen. :D
 
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