Eosone 1000 connection

[landonspop]

I have these front speakers. Speakers have powered subs.

I hooked them up too my Denon 3808 like this.

I hooked up the speakers to chanel A l/r and I hooked up the rca nonpowered outs l and r to the powered rca input.

Before I bought a subwoofer, I had these hooked up to the sub out using a rca splitter, in mono.

Did I do this right?

 

[landonspop]

rca nonpowered outs

I meant to say pre outs l and r rcas.

 

[The Chukker]

I too have mains with powered subs built in and I gotta tell you: my ears could not tell the difference between using only high level inputs and using high level and low level inputs simultaneously. So why bother? I also tried this with my center channel which also has a built in sub and guess what? No audible benefit. I use high level inputs only on all my speakers with the exception of my subs; I notice in your sig that you use a subwoofer as well so I am assuming you weren't using the low level inputs on your mains for the LFE channel.

 

[bandphan]

I notice in your sig that you use a subwoofer as well so I am assuming you weren't using the low level inputs on your mains for the LFE channel.

i think so...

 

[The Chukker]

i think so...

Honestly I don't think the OP was completely clear if he was intending to use the low level LFE input on his mains for the LFE channel or simply was trying to "squeeze" the most performance out of his FL and FR channels. For example, my center channel has a low level input that the manufacturer recommends using in conjunction with the high level inupts as well as the Center pre-out of my receiver (and NOT the LFE channel). I A/B'ed this for awhile using several sources and I could not tell the audible difference, so why bother with the extra cable? What if any difference he would get using the pre-outs in conjunction with his high level connection is beyond me. If he wants to use a splitter from his Sub out and use his dedicated sub as well as the onboard subs of his mains then by all means: try it and see if you like how it sounds. My personal experience with this is that using a dedicated sub for the LFE channel and running the fronts full range gives the optimum (not necessarily maximum) performance. Honestly, If maximum performance is the goal I think he would be better off getting another sub and splitting the Sub out just once and/or tweaking the crossover freq until everything is blended just right.

 

[landonspop]

Honestly I don't think the OP was completely clear if he was intending to use the low level LFE input on his mains for the LFE channel or simply was trying to "squeeze" the most performance out of his FL and FR channels. For example, my center channel has a low level input that the manufacturer recommends using in conjunction with the high level inupts as well as the Center pre-out of my receiver (and NOT the LFE channel). I A/B'ed this for awhile using several sources and I could not tell the audible difference, so why bother with the extra cable? What if any difference he would get using the pre-outs in conjunction with his high level connection is beyond me. If he wants to use a splitter from his Sub out and use his dedicated sub as well as the onboard subs of his mains then by all means: try it and see if you like how it sounds. My personal experience with this is that using a dedicated sub for the LFE channel and running the fronts full range gives the optimum (not necessarily maximum) performance. Honestly, If maximum performance is the goal I think he would be better off getting another sub and splitting the Sub out just once and/or tweaking the crossover freq until everything is blended just right.[/QUOTE

Originaaly my pwrd subs on mains were used as LFE, before I purchased new sub. I then moved them to the left and right (frt) pre amp outputs for two reasons. One, I was trying to get the full range of fronts in 5.1 setting. The other was for listening to music in stereo.

I am not used to having a seperate powered sub, and I am still trying to see how it fits in.

If I use the crossover freq at 80Hz, does this apply to the pre outs also? If it does, I guess the pwrd subs on mains would not be active, correct.

I just purchased rec and sub this month. I am in the market for a new cc also, so I guess I do not need one w/ pw sub?

That is why I am here. I am not sure if I am using my equipment correctly.

 

[The Chukker]

I tried searching for some information about your speakers but I couldn't find any specs other than the fact they were made in conjunction by Polk and Genesis. I am assuming with an onboard sub the speakers can be run full range. In the speaker set up menu of the 3808 you should set the FL and FR to "Large". This will send the full audio signal to your main speakers including those below the specified crossover frequency; I recommend setting the crossover freq at 80hz to start. You did not specify what model center channel you are using, could you when you get a chance? Until then, tentatively set your center channel to "Small". Set your SL and SR both to "small", Definitive rates the BP2X from ~45hz to ~30khz. All information below the crossover freq (in this case 80hz) will be routed to the subwoofer. Now for connections: run high level outputs (i.e. speaker wire) to all 5 of your speakers. Run a subwoofer cable (make sure it is a dedicated subwoofer cable not a random RCA cable) from the Sub out of the 3808 to the LFE low level input of the Supercube I, set the phase to 0 and the output at say ~40-50% for testing purposes. Measure how far each of your speakers are to the primary listening position and then enter this information in the "Speaker Distance" sub-menu of the 3808. There are many in this forum who at this point will tell you to run out to Radio Shack and get a SPL meter (me included) to accurately get your channel levels correct, but you can get a pretty good approximation of this by ear with some practice. Run the test tone protocols from the 3808's "Channel Level" sub-menu and set it to manual (not auto) so you can switch back and forth and as quickly or as slowly as you want between different channels. When you feel that all channels are more or less equal to each other, let's move on to the subwoofer. There are lots of tutorials that can be found on this site, look in the a/v university tab and tips & tricks tab at the top of Audioholics' home page. For simplicity's sake, put the Supercube in a corner of your room, set the "Subwoofer" setting in the 3808 to yes. Experiment with the gain/volume dial in the back of the Supercube with various media you are familiar with until it blends with your other speakers; the goal for it is to be invisible (you don't want to be able to localize where the sub is). You don't want it to be boomy either (too much gain). This is a good start; we can go from here once you get this dialed in....

 

[landonspop]

cener channel

I tried searching for some information about your speakers but I couldn't find any specs other than the fact they were made in conjunction by Polk and Genesis. I am assuming with an onboard sub the speakers can be run full range. In the speaker set up menu of the 3808 you should set the FL and FR to "Large". This will send the full audio signal to your main speakers including those below the specified crossover frequency; I recommend setting the crossover freq at 80hz to start. You did not specify what model center channel you are using, could you when you get a chance? ).

It's in my sig. My center channel is a Paradigm CC100. I am not sure if I should replace it. If I do, which cc to go with ($500-$1000)?

I don't know if this helps but maybe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-4-EOSONE-POLK-1RD0013-1-TITANIUM-TWEETERS-NEAR-GONE_W0QQitemZ270212608765QQihZ017QQcategoryZ32861QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yes, I have gone through speaker setup and have fronts as large and the rest as small. I have also set distances. I was going to use microphone setup, is this not good?

Sub is connected w/ dedicated sub cable w/ rca's to sub out on rec. My fronts also require rca inputs for pwrd subs. I also used heavy sub cables here to preout left and right rca's. Fronts also have a level control and freq crossover setting(?).

I have used 80Hz for now.

 

[chadnliz]

Being its a powered woofer the speaker does all its work internally...my dad runs Vandersteen Wood Quatro speakers with powered woofers, his pass filters are external but yours are internal, its not the same as LFE.

 

[bandphan]

the eosones were a private lable to best buy and crutchfeild (and a couple of others).

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb4360/is_199506/ai_n15230000

 

[The Chukker]

Sub is connected w/ dedicated sub cable w/ rca's to sub out on rec. My fronts also require rca inputs for pwrd subs. I also used heavy sub cables here to preout left and right rca's. Fronts also have a level control and freq crossover setting(?).

I am highly skeptical that your mains require rca inputs for the onboard subs. The rca inputs are there if you wanted to use your mains as the LFE channel. You have a level (gain) control for the onboard sub, and you have a crossover freq setting which functions exactly like the bass management system in the 3808. Again, hook up only the high level connections as discussed earlier and turn up some bass heavy music. Put your ear close to the sub aperture on your speakers and see if you can hear and "feel" it. Adjust the level gain on the back until it suits you, also tweak the crossover freq adjustment as well (my first inclination is to tell you to turn it all the way up as the bass management in the 3808 is sending you the full range signal already).
Do you still have the original documentation on those speakers?