I auditioned them last week and had the exact same thoughts. For a $5500 full range speaker, I'd like more bass. They sounded great for home theatre, but for music, I don't like to use a sub, and these speakers didn't cut it. I preferred my PSB Stratus Golds. However, they were being run off a low end Denon and I'm sure they would sound better with a high end amp. Overall, I was disappointed with them and for the money, if going with Energy, I would get the RC-70.