Emotiva Reviewed by Secrets

[mulester7]

.....well, I'm gonna' step out on a limb and say the squad cars showed up on this one with ALL the blue lights goin', haha....

 

[Josuah]

I've actually been trying to find out where the measurements of the RX-V2600 and DMC-1 favor one over the other. But from the reviews, I couldn't really match up the measurement graphs with each other and say one is better than the other. The DMC-1 also has a whole new display format.

Would it be possible to point me in the right direction here? I'm mostly interested in the bench measurements, and not the feature set or bass management capabilities. TIA.

 

[gene]

I've actually been trying to find out where the measurements of the RX-V2600 and DMC-1 favor one over the other. But from the reviews, I couldn't really match up the measurement graphs with each other and say one is better than the other. The DMC-1 also has a whole new display format.

Would it be possible to point me in the right direction here? I'm mostly interested in the bench measurements, and not the feature set or bass management capabilities. TIA.

You can directly compare my measurements (Freq response, SNR, Distortion)of the DMC-1 and Yamaha RX-V4600. The 2600 preamp section is actually an improvement on the 4600 since it can output over 4Vrms unclipped as opposed to around 1.7Vrms of the 4600.

 

[Josuah]

Yeah, I tried to compare those. I found the two frequency response graphs, and it actually looks to me like the DMC-1 is better, although it's hard to tell since the RX-V2600 graph has no lines for 20Hz and 20kHz. The wording implies the RX-V2600 is -0.5dB at 20Hz and -0.25dB at 20kHz but uses variance, so I guess that's not exactly the right interpretation.

I also didn't see any pre-amp signal-to-noise or distortion numbers on the RX-V1400. The DMC-1 has: "-105.86 dB below 16.46 dBV or 6.6Vrms; Reference Level (at 0.10 % THD+N) <10 Hz - 22k Hz bandwidth , no option filter." which seems extremely good to me; I'm not as interested in the numbers when using the analog inputs.

Plus, the DMC-1 went to 6.6Vrms without clipping while the RX-V1400 went to 4.55Vrms.

I must be missing something or misinterpreting something?

 

[DOJ]

I think they went a little over the top with the blue lights & winki-tinkies. I have heard complaints about how Outlaw's products are too plain and it looks like AV123 went the other direction. I wonder why they used WOOD for the sides of both the Pre/Pro & Amp, I thought wood went out in the late 60's?

I really like that modular-amp design and the ability to add 2-channel block to go to 14 channels; nice for other Zones.

The Pre/Pro does not look like that great of a deal, no DVI/HDMI switching and no auto-setup on a $2,500 Pre/Pro? The Outlaw 990 at $1,100 seems like a much better deal and I seriously doubt the Emo sounds $1,400 better; would love to see a comparison between these two.

As nice as the 990 is , I chose the DMC-1 over it .

 

[gene]

Yeah, I tried to compare those. I found the two frequency response graphs, and it actually looks to me like the DMC-1 is better, although it's hard to tell since the RX-V2600 graph has no lines for 20Hz and 20kHz. The wording implies the RX-V2600 is -0.5dB at 20Hz and -0.25dB at 20kHz but uses variance, so I guess that's not exactly the right interpretation.

I also didn't see any pre-amp signal-to-noise or distortion numbers on the RX-V1400. The DMC-1 has: "-105.86 dB below 16.46 dBV or 6.6Vrms; Reference Level (at 0.10 % THD+N) <10 Hz - 22k Hz bandwidth , no option filter." which seems extremely good to me; I'm not as interested in the numbers when using the analog inputs.

Plus, the DMC-1 went to 6.6Vrms without clipping while the RX-V1400 went to 4.55Vrms.

I must be missing something or misinterpreting something?

Please re-read my last post. I said to compare the RXV-4600 Measurements NOT the 2600. Clint did the 2600 measurements on an Oscope and function generator which is not as precise as my Audio Precision. Anything beyone 2Vrms out of the preamp section is mostly academic since most amps will reach full power between 1.5-2Vrms.

 

[Josuah]

Oops! Sorry, I didn't pay enough attention. Thanks!