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fyrmedic01@hotm

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sorry if this has been covered allready...but..Am I right in thinking If I am just watching DVD's that an EDTV will give me a pretty good picture since the max res of a DVD is 480p? my brother is looking for an inexpensive plasma(i know those words don't really go together) just to watch TV and play DVD's. he is not a freak about HDTV and movies like I am. I guess what I am trying to ask is...do EDTV's give a decent pic when watching DVD's
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

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Why Bother

With all major networks broadcasting in HD and more content available on cable/sat, plus HD DVD here within a year I'd get an HD capable set. Check this out, it can be had for $2,400 online and may be dropping to less than $2,000 within three months. Even Target.com sells this TV.

http://www.syntaxgroups.com/products/37inch_productd.html
 
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fyrmedic01@hotm

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BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

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Here's the deal, and this is something a LOT of people have a hard time dealing with, but is the truth.

HD is a myth.

That is, the broadcast industry has started calling 720p and 1080i HDTV. This is the exact same term they once used for 480i. That right, 'standard def' television used to be called HD.

WHY?

Because, marketers got together to try to sell 480i color TV as the 'end-all be-all' of television. Obviously it isn't the case.

A TV can only carry the fancy 'HDTV' logo if it has 720 lines or MORE of horizontal resolution. It has nothing to do with the ability to cleanly scale what it receives to the lines it has on the screen. It has NOTHING to do with pixels actually being in a 16:9 ratio as 720p and 1080i broadcasts are in. It is all about the number of horizontal pixels.

It's stupid.

Take any decent 853x480 display at the 42" size that has a decent image processor in it and step back to the distance you will actually be viewing it from. That is your display. That is what it will look like in your home. Don't stand 4 feet from it and compare it to sets costing thousands more. Compare it from the actual viewing distance. It is then, and ONLY then that you can come close to comparing the quality between two different 42" plasmas.

I was in Tweeter the other day and stood about 2 feet from two different 42" displays. One was 'HDTV' as they claimed, the other was 'EDTV' and the price difference between the two was $3,000.00. At a couple of feet I could definitely see that the more expensive one was producing a sharper image.

So, I stepped back an additional 10 or 12 feet to where I would be in my bedroom. The differences disappeared. Not kind-of sort-of disappeared. I mean, the two sets produced an idential image. I stood there for about 5 minutes just trying to find one little thing that made the $3,000 more expensive set show itself as better.

I couldn't find it.

So, I did what any smart person does... I called a friend over and asked him if he could see any difference. After a couple of minutes, 'No' was the only answer I got.

Almost every new 16:9 format television, except for a few odd brands or sizes, accept 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i inputs on component.

I will never buy Panasonic until they accept all 4 formats on their component input (they don't currently I believe, except on some commercial models).

But, and this is a BIG but: The image processing in cheap 42" plasmas is usually far inferior than the ones that get the 'HDTV' stamp on them. Sure, they all can display HD material with no problem, but the one with the extra pricing usually includes some extra stuff in the box besides just a few more pixels to sharpen up the image, which doesn't help people sitting across the room anyway.

Get the 42" EDTV, take a look at it. Go into Best Buy, Circuit City, and, if you have them, a couple of nicer 'boutique' type shops - or at least Tweeter.

Do some comparison in person to be sure you are happy. It's far to much money to spend to not spend a couple hundred more for a lot better of a product. It is not even CLOSE to enough of a quality jump between an EDTV labelled set, and a HDTV labelled set to make it worth the $1,000+ you will spend to get it.

DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT ANY SALES PERSON TELLS YOU ON THIS - they have all been trained only to say "Only HDTV can dispaly true HD." It's a lie, and very few people actually get it.
 
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mfabien

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I have a 13" Sharp Aquos EDTV in the kitchen connected to basic cable. The picture quality is outstanding. The unit has LCD display.

The day I purchased the above, I took the opportunity to view some HDTV 42" Plasma screens in different price range up to $8,000 CDN. There was a NFL game on all the sets (Monday Night on ABCHD). Except for the most expensive one (less of a problem, but still there), they all had one fault (compared to my 57" CRT RPTV) and that is the background scenes showing the audience were like paintings rather than real people. Not at all natural.

Therefore, I suspect the EDTV/HDTV comparison for Plasma screens cited above is not valid for some other technologies and certainly not for CRT RPTV. I would not trade my 57" HDTV for any EDTV. Whether people sit at 9 feet or 15 feet from the screen, the HD display is outstanding in every way.
 
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fyrmedic01@hotm

Junior Audioholic
Here is what it comes down two...My brother just wants to watch DVD's and very little television(basic cable only) I would say $1800 is the max price...Am I correct in the asumption that 480P is a pretty good picture for DVD's I know that more pixels possible could be better but..An EDTV WILL project DVD's at there native resalution(sp?) this will not be hooked up to an HT and will not be used for any HDTV source. I understand the battle EDTV/HDTV but that is not my question...I also understand that he must View the televsions in his price range like auditioning(sp again?) loudspeakers. so maybe I will break it down to its real basics

question one. is the resalution of a dvd 480p yes/no?
question two. Does EDTV produce a 480P picture yes/no?
 
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mfabien

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fyrmedic01@hotm said:
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question one. is the resalution of a dvd 480p yes/no?
question two. Does EDTV produce a 480P picture yes/no?
1. No. DVD's are in 480i. But most DVD's have a progressive scan option (480p)

2. Yes, in order to be an EDTV, it must display 480p.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

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Yes, buy the EDTV, save your cash - best decision you can make.

You may want a decent DVD player (not upconverting!) but progressive scan.
 
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