Dynaudio Consequence Utimate Edition??

[haraldo]

I have listened extensively to the Contour S 3.4 and S 5.4, very different price range, and.... They definitely also do NOT have an inverted image

Contour S 3.4 is remarkable at that price level

 

[rded]

I have listened extensively to the Contour S 3.4 and S 5.4, very different price range, and.... They definitely also do NOT have an inverted image

Contour S 3.4 is remarkable at that price level

Hey Haraldo,

I actually owned the 3.4 briefly prior to upgrading to the C2s and now sapphires. Infact, 3.4's tweeter dispersion was dead on with my seating position, IMHO. The C2s had a slightly taller image(because of it's height) but I couldn't complain.

 

[haraldo]

Hey Haraldo,

I actually owned the 3.4 briefly prior to upgrading to the C2s and now sapphires. Infact, 3.4's tweeter dispersion was dead on with my seating position, IMHO. The C2s had a slightly taller image(because of it's height) but I couldn't complain.

How do you compare the C2's as opposed to the S 3.4...
And the Sapphire's ?

 

[rded]

How do you compare the C2's as opposed to the S 3.4...
And the Sapphire's ?

Since you're familiar with the 3.4s, I would have to say that the C2s is everything that the 3.4s want to be when it grows up Extremly linear, detailed highs, tight bass and very transparent and uncolored midrange yet it can sound "small" or "large" when called for. It is not very demanding of equipment and are relatively easy to drive Some people actually feel that the C2s are a bit dark but it's really gear related.

The Sapphires are more Dynamic, has a little hotter treble(but nothing wrong with it) compared to the C2s and has more presence. It's bass is more prodigious-no sub needed IMO. It has "no holes" as far as top to bottom coherence. They are a lot more demanding and revealing of source and associated equipment.

 

[haraldo]

Never heard C2's and Sapphire's for that sake, but what I kind of think is that the model's that utilizes smaller bass drivers are better and sound more Dynamic... perhaps it's my imagination, but I certainly find the S 3.4 to be better than S 5.4

Perhaps this could be due to amplifier limitations or other factors that's not related to speakers, but to me it was quite clear thing... S 3.4 seem to be more "free", more dynamic, less constrained.....

I also remember the S 1.4.... they shocked me as to what kind of performance... in such small speakers, very close to S 3.4 in such a small box...


I actually have dreamed about Evidence Temptation for a long time.......

Strange that Dynaudio have so very different driver setup's in their top range models
Evidence and Consequence are as different as speakers can be

 

[haraldo]

Rded, which amplifier do you have for your Sapphires?

eeehhhhhm.... or perhaps you're bound to upgrade... once you've heard the Consequence, you'll never forget 'em right?

Perhaps the only medicine to this is to buy these speakers and never listen ever to anything better, then you're scre¤#"# again

 

[rded]

Rded, which amplifier do you have for your Sapphires?

eeehhhhhm.... or perhaps you're bound to upgrade... once you've heard the Consequence, you'll never forget 'em right?

Perhaps the only medicine to this is to buy these speakers and never listen ever to anything better, then you're scre¤#"# again

Hi Haraldo,

The Consequence SE is too big for my basement. I would have to move to a bigger home to accomodate them. Anyways, I have the Arcam AVR600 powering the Sapphires right now but plan to get either the Naim Supernait with the Flatcap XS

Or the Octave V40 SE with the black box.

I can't decide between the 2 but will have to make a decicion when the funds are available. As great a receiver the AVR 600 is, it's still receiver. I guess I upgraded speakers faster than the rest of my gear But yeah that's the plan. My dealer has a trade up policy so will eventually move to separates when the coin permits. Heck I might just trade in the AVR600 for better gear...

 

[Warpdrv]

I can certainly attest to and highly recommend the Naim products.... DAC's are awesome - My dealer carries them and that is what he setup my Sig S8's on, and the sound stage and depth was like nothing I have ever experienced....

 

[rded]

I can certainly attest to and highly recommend the Naim products.... DAC's are awesome - My dealer carries them and that is what he setup my Sig S8's on, and the sound stage and depth was like nothing I have ever experienced....

I know exactly what you mean But you also have to hear the Similarly Priced Octave V40 SE Tube Integrated amp-it's German made and is now just starting to take root in North America since Dynaudio USA started distributing it in early '09. Where the Supernait concentrates on Musicality, Slam and PRAT; the V40 SE is all about the lush midrange, air and clarity. I'm so torn and I really can't decide

I have a CD5xs CDP and getting the Naim DAC is but sensible, and perhaps in the near future, I might even take the plunge with the Naim HDX music server if the budget permits.

BTW, here's a pic of the Dynaudio Blue Sapphire

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[haraldo]

Really some good looking speakers you have there mate

Yes, I believe you do have an amplifier issue, which is why you were not so happy with the sapphires after listening to Consequence?, even though Consequence of course is much better.... I think you should do everything in your powers to audition the amp's at home with your speakers!

Although the AVR600 looks like a huge Powerful amp, I think these speakers need sth even better...
I think a much better amp will make a lightyear of change, to be honest....

And one more thing, the speakers are awfully close to the front wall, is there any chance you can get more distance?, please just move the speakers around and try, even posisions you think absolutely may not work, culd sometimes prove to be magical, like far from front wall, close to side wall and heavy angling... all depending on room and listning position of course

very very nice speakers indeed

 

[rded]

Really some good looking speakers you have there mate

Perhaps you have an amplifier issue, which is why you were not so happy with the sapphires after listening to Consequence?, even though Consequence of course is much better.... I think you should do everything in your powers to audition the amp's at home with your speakers!

Although the AVR600 looks like a huge Powerful amp, I think these speakers need sth even better...
I think a much better amp will make a lightyear of change, to be honest....

And one more thing, the speakers are awfully close to the front wall, is there any chance you can get more distance?, please just move the speakers around and try, even posisions you think absolutely may not work, culd sometimes prove to be magical, like far from front wall, close to side wall and heavy angling... all depending on room and listning position of course

very very nice speakers indeed

Hey Haraldo,

Thanks for the compliment. I agree with the Amp/receiver issue. Mind you I bought the AVR600 with the Contour 3.4 in mind and as I sated above, my components could not keep up with my speakers as far as upgrades. I am actually working on getting a better amp for it thus I'm looking at the Supernait and the Octave V40.

The Sapphires are approximately 3 feet away from the side wall and 3.5 feet from the rear wall. I also lowered that acoustic panel(the coffee bean burlap sack frame on the wall) to absorb more midrange & acoustic reflections. When the photo was taken, the room configuration was still tailored to the C2's dimentions, so yeah changes have been made.. Now the Sapphires have been spiked and all the drivers have been tightened. So it images really well and bass is tight and textured.

 

[haraldo]

Hey Rded, sounds like you're really on top of everything there

Probably my favorite amongst solid state poweramps is the Huge Electrocompaniet Nemo monoblocks, they're huge, very expensive, but sound sweet as anything out there, and when you want power.... you get a cannon shot right in your forehead

http://www.electrocompaniet.no/products/classic/poweramp/nemo.html

These are amps that will make any speakers shine.... Big amps doesn't have to sound rough....

Not cheap, but once the bill is paid, you'll never regret....
I still want'em....

These are available in us...
If they are too big and expensive AW400 and AW120 are extremely good amps too

http://www.electrocompaniet.no/products/classic/poweramp/AW400.html

http://www.electrocompaniet.no/products/classic/poweramp/2x120-M.html

Michael Jackson's producer sweared about using AW250-R
http://www.electrocompaniet.no/products/classic/poweramp/aw250r.html

Very good amps for any of the Dynaudio's, even good enough for Consequence

I can only imagine how the Nemo's would be with the Sapphire's, or even the Consequence's

 

[haraldo]

Heard back from one of the Norwegian Dynaudio dealers that Consequence SE is possibly the best speaker he's ever heard... and he has some very very good stuff around.... of course he may not be 100% objective but this is very strong statement

The Consequence SE perhaps even betters Evidence Temptation ... the one thing is that Consequence eats amps for breakfast ... it needs lots of lots of power

 

[ocos]

Re consequence

Hi i am johan from Belgium i have the luck to buy a pair of consequence mk2 in
Holland and i must say this haven i play with triple ocos speakercable .Before a played 10 years with contour 18Mk2 same amps sphinxset project mk2 two times 245 w on 4 ohm Super can handle anything .My listening space is about 18 square meters with the contours resonance in the room with the consequence zero !!!!! I have also a pair valve 's of Velleman pure class a 2X 60 pure watts no problem with the consequence at all lots of dynamics .Thy doubled the power of the CONSEUENCE UA AND UPDATED THE SPEAKERS AND CROSSOVERPARTS BUTH THE FIVEWAY CROSSOVER FEQUENCY ARE NOT CHANGED THE OLD MODEL HAS A RANGE OF 20HZ DOWN THE NEW ONE 17HZ ALSO THE HIGHS ARE 25000HZ FOR THE OLD AND 30000HZ FOR THE NEW ONE so if you want a bargin for five to six thousand euro you can buy them in Holland if you have the chance to get them i did not here the new model buth i am very confident the difference will not be big!!!!!!! Happy listening greetings !!!!!!!!!!!!