DVD's with copyright protection

[JVC]

DVD Shrink (w/Nero) and DVD Decrypter (w/Shrink) will copy dvds and will keep DD 5.1 and DTS and stereo tracks. Using these are very much illegal, even for your own private use, although they probably won't hunt you down unless you're selling them. The FBI warning at the beginning of every DVD says: no copying, even if there's no financial gain.

 

[kiran_sham]

I don't understand why Sima would restrict the sound to stereo. You pass only the video thru the Sima and the audio is connected directly to the DVD recorder, which makes me assume that audio remains in whatever format it was. Any thoughts?

 

[patnshan]

DVD Shrink (w/Nero) and DVD Decrypter (w/Shrink) will copy dvds and will keep DD 5.1 and DTS and stereo tracks. Using these are very much illegal, even for your own private use, although they probably won't hunt you down unless you're selling them. The FBI warning at the beginning of every DVD says: no copying, even if there's no financial gain.

Going 65 in a 55 is illegal too

Obviously this is illegal, although it is virtually impossible to get in trouble for this if you share the backups only with "trusted" friends and are not uploading onto the interne or selling the stuff. The FBI has far too little resources to knock on everyone's door looking for this.
I am sure that warning stops a lot of people from using those programs
Pat

 

[korgoth]

sima doesnt restrict anything in audio, it doesnt even connect through the audio.

the audio is only restricted by your dvd recorder. im not sure exactly how they record, but i think most stand alone dvd recorders only input a 2 channel analog signal.

if your dvd recorder has a coaxial input, or 5.1 inputs.. then it might work. but otherwise you need to do it on a computer.

 

[korgoth]

I know for certain that using DVD shrink to rip a DVD for backup allows for full, unchanged, audio tracks in 5.1. I think you can choose what you want it to shrink. We generally choose to shrink the video portion, and frankly, my eyes cannot tell the difference from the original. Once these discs are burned, I can play them in my DVD player and get full surround audio through SPDIF or whatever.

I think that the poster who said you would have to settle for stereo audio is incorrect.

Pat

shrink, or any other compression software, doesnt compress audio, there is an option to remove different audio tracks to save space, but the video is the only thing that gets compressed.

and the compression is noticeable, but not if you dont look for it. During dark scenes if you compressed down to 70 percent or less of the original youll notice blocks instead of smooth transitions of dark shades. They are even noticeable in originals sometimes, but especially if you compress it.

 

[patnshan]

shrink, or any other compression software, doesnt compress audio, there is an option to remove different audio tracks to save space, but the video is the only thing that gets compressed.

and the compression is noticeable, but not if you dont look for it. During dark scenes if you compressed down to 70 percent or less of the original youll notice blocks instead of smooth transitions of dark shades. They are even noticeable in originals sometimes, but especially if you compress it.

It looks good to me, but I understand your point. I did not know you MUST compress the video, that is just what I had thought I selected. Thanks for the clarification.

Pat

 

[korgoth]

well you only have to compress the video if its more than 4.35 gigs.

well actually if you have a dual layer burner you can fit about 9 gigs, or you just dont like compressions, as some people dont, you can also split the dvd into 2 discs without compression.

but if you dont need to compress, dvd decrypter is much faster.

 

[kiran_sham]

By the way, I observed that when I record a movie from my cable TV input (coaxial), I get the 5.1 encoding retained, but not when I do it from a DVD player (component).

 

[kiran_sham]

And one more thing: When I write to a DVD-R, the video quality is good for SP mode (2 hours maximum, per disc) and LP mode (4 hours maximum, per disc) of recording. But picture looks a lil ugly for XP mode (8 hours maximum, per disc)

 

[korgoth]

By the way, I observed that when I record a movie from my cable TV input (coaxial), I get the 5.1 encoding retained, but not when I do it from a DVD player (component).

yeah thats what i thought, but most dvd players have coaxial or optical outputs as well.if you want to keep 5.1 then you should get a dvd player with digital audio, and connect it to your dvd recorder, assuming it has coaxial and optical inputs.

And i think your talking about composite, not component.
component cables are for video, green blue and red i believe.. the composite cables are the rca cables, one for video, and 2 for audio.

they are both analog, but composite are for video and audio. component is just a video. youre only going to get a 2 channel sound with analog.

 

[korgoth]

And one more thing: When I write to a DVD-R, the video quality is good for SP mode (2 hours maximum, per disc) and LP mode (4 hours maximum, per disc) of recording. But picture looks a lil ugly for XP mode (8 hours maximum, per disc)

2 hours is plenty.. i dont think i would compress anymore than that.

 

[kiran_sham]

And i think your talking about composite, not component.
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Yes, I was in fact referring to composite.